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Old 12-04-2014, 06:49 PM   #15
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:06 PM   #16
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Some time back I received an email from PayPal explaining their website had been spoofed, and advising me to never click a link to get to their website, to only enter their web address in my browser manually. I guess it could happen again.
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Big time scam. I just received the exact same email a couple days ago on my 98 Gulfstream.
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Definitely a scam! I received dozens of these when I advertised a 5th wheel on Craigslist, although back then they were offering cashiers checks. I guess they've found some way to use PayPal in the fraud!

When I received one I would reply "I can only accept a direct transfer of funds between your bank and mine" . Never heard from them again!
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:51 AM   #19
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I AGREE IT'S A SCAM. My initial question still hasn't been answered, from the info given in the OP's first posting, WHAT leads you to KNOW it's a scam?

When I get an email telling me my Bank America account has been compromised and I should follow the link to 'fix' it, I know it's a scam because I don't have an account at BoA. If it is a business I am registered, I look to see if they address me by name. If it's not just an auto fill using info in my email address, I MIGHT use MY bookmark and go to the business and check my status.

An email notifying me I have a shipment from XYZ or a summons from a court, I know it's a scam because the attached 'documents' are .zip files which could be an executable program or virus.

Any email from Nigeria, (.ng) or most other countries I don't have regular correspondence or business with are automatically suspect. A couple of years ago I set my spam filter to divert all emails from the domain (.inf or .info) to the spam folder and it hasn't steered any email incorrectly.

But WHAT information given in the OP's first posting of the SCAM ALERT led them to KNOW it was a scam? Just the common facts of many scams that it comes from overseas?
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Old 12-05-2014, 12:19 PM   #20
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If you know it's a scam, and it definately is, why are you still asking the question. Alot of people actually go for it and lose everything they always worked for. I highly doubt someone from an overseas location is going to buy a MH sight unseen...that would be what we call a clue.
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If you know it's a scam, and it definately is, why are you still asking the question. Alot of people actually go for it and lose everything they always worked for. I highly doubt someone from an overseas location is going to buy a MH sight unseen...that would be what we call a clue.
NOW I know it's a scam. I asked what in post #1 clued it was a scam. I buy products from China, that's me buying something from overseas. Does that make me a scammer? Many folks buy motorhomes sight unseen, - they order one from the manufacturer and it's not built until the order, and a deposit, is made. Are they scammers? I put a refundable deposit on my MH sight unseen. I then flew 1400 miles to inspect and finalize the transaction.
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Every thing reads a scam,

Off shore
as a gift
in a hurry
sight unseen
list price
only paypal
at sea, no contact

Pay pal, cashiers check, etc., are not as safe as they sound.

I would run from this as fast as I could.

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Yep!
Have seen this same exact scam "script" repeatedly for more than 6 years. It "works" often enough for it to be a regular item in the scammers tool bag.
If anyone is skeptical and think it is a valid deal, please try it and report back.....unless you would feel too foolish to tell.
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NOW I know it's a scam. I asked what in post #1 clued it was a scam. I buy products from China, that's me buying something from overseas. Does that make me a scammer? Many folks buy motorhomes sight unseen, - they order one from the manufacturer and it's not built until the order, and a deposit, is made. Are they scammers? I put a refundable deposit on my MH sight unseen. I then flew 1400 miles to inspect and finalize the transaction.
Buying sight unseen: Red Flag #1
Full Price: Red Flag #2
Third Party Involved: Red Flag #3
PayPal: Red Flag #4
Out of Country: Red Flag #5
No access to Phones but has email access: Red Flag #6
Buying for My Father, Brother, Wife, etc: Red Flag #7
They don't want to make a deposit and then Inspect?: TOO many red flags for me.
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Off shore
as a gift
in a hurry
sight unseen
list price
only paypal
at sea, no contact


Once again, some of the above 'signs' of a scam aren't really telling.
Off Shore. Are you saying all transactions by buyers off shore are bogus? I buy items from other countries, that by definition are 'off shore.'
This time of year many folks buy gifts for others.
No mention of in a hurry in the emails.
Given the emailer's location, of course he might end up buying sight unseen. Not wise, but if he's willing to do the transaction it's not my place to question his purchasing acumen.
No mention of paying full list price.
Because of issues with bogus cashier or personal checks, money orders, etc. asking to do a distant transaction by Paypal isn't uncommon.
The email mentions being on an oil rig, not out of contact. Obviously they must be in contact for the communications shown in post #1. There is a request for a phone #, but no mention of not being able to communicate by phone.

All together, the similarity to other identified scams is likely, but I still say there's nothing in the OP's post that immediately indicates SCAM. Being skeptical, YES, Not assuming the deal is done, YES. But nothing at the point of emails YET indicates a scam.
If the person then asks for money from the OP to enable the transaction, the title, etc. of course drop it like a hot potato(e--if you're a former VP)

I'm questioning some of the ASSUMPTIONS made by the OP and the folks that have listed objections, especially the 'out of contact or phone' and 'full price' ones. No indication of those 'objections' in the OP.
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Google "How are scammers using PayPal to scam people" and you"lol find many ways and indicators.
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Off shore
as a gift
in a hurry
sight unseen
list price
only paypal
at sea, no contact


Once again, some of the above 'signs' of a scam aren't really telling.
Off Shore. Are you saying all transactions by buyers off shore are bogus? I buy items from other countries, that by definition are 'off shore.'
This time of year many folks buy gifts for others.
No mention of in a hurry in the emails.
Given the emailer's location, of course he might end up buying sight unseen. Not wise, but if he's willing to do the transaction it's not my place to question his purchasing acumen.
No mention of paying full list price.
Because of issues with bogus cashier or personal checks, money orders, etc. asking to do a distant transaction by Paypal isn't uncommon.
The email mentions being on an oil rig, not out of contact. Obviously they must be in contact for the communications shown in post #1. There is a request for a phone #, but no mention of not being able to communicate by phone.

All together, the similarity to other identified scams is likely, but I still say there's nothing in the OP's post that immediately indicates SCAM. Being skeptical, YES, Not assuming the deal is done, YES. But nothing at the point of emails YET indicates a scam.
If the person then asks for money from the OP to enable the transaction, the title, etc. of course drop it like a hot potato(e--if you're a former VP)

I'm questioning some of the ASSUMPTIONS made by the OP and the folks that have listed objections, especially the 'out of contact or phone' and 'full price' ones. No indication of those 'objections' in the OP.
"am buying this for my dad as a surprise gift so am willing to offer you the amount you requested,:

$28,500 sight unseen? Who in their right mind does this?

I am done here.
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The fact that BFLinn won't let this go is starting to make me wonder . . .
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