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Old 12-06-2014, 10:08 AM   #43
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The buyer pays the seller with a legitimate PayPal account.

The unknown 3rd party "agent" drives off with the RV after the seller is paid.

The scammer (buyer) files a claim with PayPal claiming he was scammed and paid for a RV he never took possession of.

PayPay reverses the payment that the seller received.

The seller now does not have the RV or the money.

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I can't quite figure out how anyone can scam you using PayPal?
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Thanks for the "PayPal education" ! I should have thought about that!
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:23 AM   #45
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Thanks for the "PayPal education" ! I should have thought about that!
Don't feel bad, I did not think of it either.
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:42 AM   #46
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If the cash isn't in my hand, it's a scam, period.
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The buyer pays the seller with a legitimate PayPal account.

The unknown 3rd party "agent" drives off with the RV after the seller is paid.

The scammer (buyer) files a claim with PayPal claiming he was scammed and paid for a RV he never took possession of.

PayPay reverses the payment that the seller received.

The seller now does not have the RV or the money.
It is not quite this easy and simple for the scammers.......or paypal would not be in business. There is a large investigation into both parties involved, the bill of sale that the owner has in hand along with the records that paypal has. Then we move onto the notary work that has been done......and the paper trail there. All of this is gone over and over by them, and with a large sum of money, even more time and investigating is involved before any money is refunded........Like us, scammers are not to hard to see......and a lot easier for a cooperation like Paypal to see.......I have never read or heard of this actually happening to someone myself....and I would think if it was going on,Paypal would not be in business. I am not saying scammers do not preveil at times.......but not easy with a paper trail and Paypal. I have been using them for a long time, been through their investigations when things did not go right, never lost out with them, they always came through.
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I have to agree with Palehorse89, there are lots of ways to prevent problems. I read through the link Mich F provided about issues selling cameras using Paypal. In the stories there were obvious places things could have been prevented. Asking and demanding a signed bill of sale including a passage acknowledging release of the Paypal funds, photos snapped of the signed title (in the case of a vehicle) or photo of new owner with the merchandise after handing it over, are a couple that come to mind. In addition, never offer to pay out cash in overpayment. You'd end losing every time, not only the obvious, but in addition Paypal keeps a percentage of the money, so you'd be giving them a larger % of the payment.

If you are cautious, you can safely sell.
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In the last 6 years I have sold cars, furniture, power tools, Bass boat, Motorcycles, and recently my Motorhome. My "Golden Rules" are cash only, face to face. The only exception was the Motorhome, I listed it on a Sunday, accepted an offer the same day at full price. The buyer had to arrange a transfer of the money to my bank from out of state. We sat and had Hamburgers and Cokes in the MH until my bank called me that the money was in my account, I signed the title and they drove away. Just not worth it to me to take any chances.
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