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Old 06-05-2011, 11:21 PM   #1
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So much for "experts"!!

At the Albany FMCA rally Les Schwab had a booth, they are also listed on the Michelin site as having the special Michelin approved tire coating. All they had at the booth was Mothers Extreme Tire Shine. I asked if it was approved by Michelin and was told all they cared about was that it not have petroleum distillates in it and that Mothers did not so it was OK. I walked over to the Mothers display and read the bottle: one of the listed items was Petroleum distillates.
So much for the expert advice!!.
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Kind of sad when sales people don't know what they are selling. We think we are talking to someone that is in the know, only to find they have not even read the label.
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Expert - "X" is an unknown quantity and a spurt is a drip under pressure
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IT was explined to me that EX is a Has Been,, You got the Spurt right though. Same idea. And yes, usually is.

Just remember folks.. Sales types are experts at one thing.. Getting YOUR MONEY in THEIR HANDS (or register).

Some of them may take the time to learn the product.. But alas, not enough of them.
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Minute amounts of petroleum distillates won't bother anything. Sort of like the minute amount of alcohol found in "alcohol free" beer.

Did you check to see how much of the stuff there was? Most all polishes, waxes, cleaners, etc. have a tiny amount of petroleum distillates in the formula somewhere. Whether so stated or not.
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Minute amounts of petroleum distillates won't bother anything. Sort of like the minute amount of alcohol found in "alcohol free" beer.

Did you check to see how much of the stuff there was? Most all polishes, waxes, cleaners, etc. have a tiny amount of petroleum distillates in the formula somewhere. Whether so stated or not.
As I remember it was the first thing listed meaning that was what most of it was. I'll have to look at a bottle when I get near a store again.

I sent an email to Michelin, they said to wash ONLY with mild soap and water and not to use ANY dressing on their tires. They used to recommend (or at least allow) 303, then they had a Michelin Tire Shine (relabeled 303?) but it appears to be out of production now too. They don't want ANY coatings on their tires let alone anything containing petroleum distillates!
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I would have gone back to the booth and told the guy, loud and clear so all near and some far could hear, he did not know what he was talking about.
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Some of the so called "experts" in the RV magazines are totally clueless. I dropped Trailer Life a while back for that reason.
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Well, we all get burned from time to time with mis-informaiton.. Most Experts rely on others for information... Very few have the time or resources to try everything themselves, or even to read every label..

I recall Click and Clack, the tappet brothers (PBS Radio, Car Talk) telling a woman she needed a new alternator.. And as it happens that fixed it.

But, here are the symptoms:

Drive all day, Stop and go, Multiple restarts, No problem

Drive at night and DEAD BATTERY in the morning.

They (And I might add other mechenics I consulted when I had that exact same problem) all said "New alternator"

And on my car that was a major repair.

What I found is this:

Older cars had "V" belts, not the modern serpentine belt, and with ONE (Well possibly 2 but the second one is very special case) case all that was needed was re-adjustmen of the belt tension. The belt was loose,, On one friend I assisted I took the belt off without using any tools,, It just came off in my hand when coaxed a bit.

The two exceptions: MY car (The 1st one this happened to) had the wrong belt, too narrow, I had to replace with the proper belt.

The other one (A chrysler alphabet car, "K" I think) had no belt at all, It still had the sticker in the window,, but no belt.

The reason a new alternator will fix: The last non-electrical step in replacing is "Adjust Belt Tension" I skipped right to that and saved .... Much money.


This is why I tend to do a lot of research.

When I advise on a problem.. It is either something in which I really am well trained, Expierenced or where I've done a ton of research.
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Expert - "X" is an unknown quantity and a spurt is a drip under pressure
Defination of an expert:

Someone that knows a lot about little; and little about a lot.
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