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Old 02-12-2009, 06:01 PM   #15
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I'm with you Craig! Cant wait to retire and get the hell out of this state.

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Old 02-12-2009, 08:29 PM   #16
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Government seems to only want to tax selected groups of citizens instead of all the citizens. Whether it is fuel, tags or tobacco it is not everyone. Why don't they make it simple and add a 5 cent tax on each roll of toliet paper. That would encompass everyone and probably generate more money than any other tax and include there big keesters.


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Old 02-13-2009, 04:58 AM   #17
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fees already too high cant wait to retire 14 weeks but whos countin
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Old 02-13-2009, 05:27 AM   #18
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This is nothing new! Vehicle license fees in California have bounced up and down for many years depending on the condition of the state's coffers. In the state's more "flush" times and when the politicians want to make a few points with the voters, the license fees decline; when the state's income is (far) short of its "outgo", the vehicle license fees (and a whole lot of other "fees!) rise. It's the way it has been, the way it is, and the way it always will be. IMO, it's a waste of energy to thrash and squall about the issue when nothing is a done deal yet! If and when the vehicle license fees do increase, it's pay up or leave the state. (Well, there's also the "don't drive" option, but that ain't gonna happen!)

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Old 02-13-2009, 05:31 AM   #19
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One more affirmation that our decision to hit the road FT this summer is a good one.

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Old 02-13-2009, 07:34 AM   #20
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Old 02-13-2009, 09:10 AM   #21
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Just google "California budget deal" and you should get links to newspaper articles which indicate that the DMV fees will almost double, sales taxes will increase by 13%, gas taxes will increase by 12 cents/gal and there will be a 2.5% to 5% surcharge on income taxes.

This is one link you can visit:


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Old 02-13-2009, 10:32 AM   #22
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I lived and worked in Northern California for 25 yrs and had a chance to transfer with my company in 1992 and made the leap and never looked back....boy did I get out in time! It is a beautiful state and had much to offer to those seeking outdoor activities. Unfortunately we still have children that reside there and they are working long hard hours just to survive and are being taxed to death. Sadly the voters of California see their votes overturned by the liberal courts each and every election. I now live in a very conserative state where the cost of living is still affordable ($166 per year to license my RV) but I can see the writing on the wall and taxes are slowing increasing here and our governor wants to increase the cost to license a vehicle to cover the cost of rebuilding roads. I think that every state will/is facing tax shortfalls and we are all in for increases in our "overhead".

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Old 02-13-2009, 01:52 PM   #23
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Yep, that's exactly how the Founders felt and that's why we are British today. Never question the govt or our superiors.

I've lived in CA my entire life and I certainly don't recall great swings in vehicle fees. The last time that was tried the voters threw out the sitting governor and we got Arnold.

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Well voters, just remember all of this come next election and vote them out of office. Until the voters stand up and take back their govt. then it's going to be a rough road.

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Old 02-13-2009, 04:39 PM   #25
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Two comments as an CA outsider. First the lawmakers by picking one group today and another group 6 months from now are using the divide and conquer theory. If they tried to solve their budget woes i n one fell swoop, i.e. raising only thw sales tax or raising only the income tax they would have a taxpayers revolt on their hands. So to prevent that they do a little here and a little over there and the affected groups are not well organized if at all and the resistance is at best minimal and tolerable for them.

AS to voting the bums out, the lawmakers bank on voter apathy and that theory generally works to their advantage.

I empathise with your plight. I felt the same way when I lived in Taxachusetts. Come to TN, vehicle registrations, i.e. cars, pick-up trucks, motor homes, fivers, etc. $25 per year and some counties tie on an extra wheel tax of $20 to $76 per year, no income tax, low property taxes, i.e. we have 5 and 1/2 year old ranch on 2.97 acres with 20' X 50' RV garage with all utilities and we pay just under $650 per year---in MA I paid more than that PER MONTH. OK, so we have a hefty 9.75% sales tax, which is limited to 7% on vehicle purchases; butfor 6 months we winter in AZ.

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maybe I'm sound asleep, but i sense way too much hysteria in some of the posts here,
( NO... the CA tax rate here isn't going up by 12% )

and since there appears to be a very nice degree of leeway today in what is tolerated here in posting ...

... i've lived on the coastline of California for 53 years, and I can tell you that the reason so many people live here is that just about every other State has a LOT of their citizens moving here, its your neighbors moving here buddy and i personally don't mind at all,
but !!, I feel like i am one of the rare home-boys that was born here !?!!

So, if TN or TX or OR or FL or, or..., or..., is so very much better, then why is this State populated by SO VERY people from your State !?? All of the people I grew up with have moved out because the State is getting too populated.
California is indeed proactive quite often, but your States will see it soon, Voted in by you voters.
And England ??, gimme a break, even the EU can't vote their own leaders in, they are appointed. and then you are taxed, and then you move here to Ca too ! Welcome bro !

So, I as a sanDiego Naval Hospital Brat, can tell you that (your) bellyachin' is perhaps good for the soul sometimes, but pickin' on the State that is populated by your very own when the entire World is having problems, seems a little too hysterical or shortsided to me.
The State i live in has more jobs and more opportunities then in almost any other Country in the world.! So maybe for 2 years you are going to have to pay a few hundred dollars more to reg your motorhome here.
How's the opportunities in your State?! (They aint' good is the honest answer brother.)

Am I way outa line?
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:32 PM   #27
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When your tax rate is 8 % and they raise it 1 % that is indeed a 12.5 % increase. Add the increased fuel tax "fee" and the doubling of the car tag "fee" and I believe we have the right to moan and complain.
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Old 02-14-2009, 02:56 AM   #28
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AS to voting the bums out, the lawmakers bank on voter apathy and that theory generally works to their advantage.
I think the problem goes beyond voter apathy. It is the total lack of citizen involvement after the election. Much of that is by design. Many laws are written in a very ambiguous way (example motor vehicle regulations) so that noone is quite sure what the law really says. If the people of California really knew the line item details about where the money is really being spent, most would be outraged - or perhaps not.

The bottom line to any budget is that you cannot spend money that you don't have. If you want to do that, you have have to find more money. The problem isn't an income problem, it is an expense problem. Until there is enough whining and complaining about the taxes, they will continue to rise - everywhere.

BTW, Denmark has 75% Income Tax rates.

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