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Old 02-16-2009, 04:53 AM   #43
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Move to Oregon. RV licensing is $300 to $400 for two years and no sales tax. Just don't license it in Oregon without living there. That can get very expensive!
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Old 02-16-2009, 06:59 AM   #44
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Doug, I wouldn't suggest moving here because our Governor "Uncle Ted" is planning on raising Oregon's vehicle registration fees in the near future. He is so impressed with California State Government he has been trying to immulate them for the last couple years. Just check out the bills he's trying to pass.

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Old 02-16-2009, 11:49 AM   #45
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When your tax rate is 8 % and they raise it 1 % that is indeed a 12.5 % increase. Add the increased fuel tax "fee" and the doubling of the car tag "fee" and I believe we have the right to moan and complain.
And to put some perspective on the license fees, my MH now costs $530 per year, and is estimated to go to $954 next year. What's interesting is that the fees are based on a value by the state, that with the current economy and resale values of RV's, is grossly over-inflated. The value the state uses, as it equates to the dollar amount charged, comes out to more than the price of my MH when first purchased, meaning the state doesn't recognize any real deprecation. Of course, plug in the MH specs at NADA and you'll see approximately 50% depreciation in 3 years and the real 'selling' market is worse than that. The license fee on that new $150k motorhome you might like to buy, would go UP $705 per year ($1,680), with the sales tax increase of $1,500 ($13,125 @ 8.75%; some areas of the bay area would go to 9.0% and 9.25%); that comes out to $14,805 on that new motorhome purchase… that should really stimulate the California economy.

Additionally, the California bay area pays some of the highest gasoline prices around, so it isn't too exciting to hear of another .12 per gallon, especially since OPEC isn't happy with the current $35 per barrel and wants it at $70.

As of today (Sunday, February 16, 2009) we are still one Republican vote shy of approval but the legislators are hammering away at a hold-out; most of the Democrats have already voted ‘yes!’.
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We here is Arizona have recently had a mob of Californies moving into our state. They, to a man/woman, complain about the high cost of living, extravagent spending and all the evils of socialist California.

The first thing they do is lobby our legislature to change the laws here to provide the very unearned gifts to the people that drove up the cost of living in their home state in the first place.

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after 30 years. HAD ENOUGH!...

CA sufferers please stay away from South Dakota.
It's terrible here..Arizona and Oregon love you..
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:39 AM   #48
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CA sufferers please stay away from South Dakota.
It's terrible here..Arizona and Oregon love you..
Can't be too bad, since you were here for 30 years! It's rough financially in almost in city or state right now, otherwise, we wouldn't have a $780 billion bailout-stimulus plan; California is just having a little rougher time than most... very liberal state and the 'majority' here feel that we should pay for any and all services here for anyone who can't. You would think that since it's taking so long to pass a budget, maybe not everyone here agrees with those in the majority, otherwise it would have been a slam-dunk. Still, I'm sure the current budget will pass, or something very close to it, and the middle-class picks up the bulk of the tab. And of course, there's still the 'stimulus package' that has over 1,000 payments that will come due... our kids, grandkids and future children are sure going to be left holding the bag on this one...

As people post in this thread, maybe you could estimate the value of your RV and the annual dmv fees that you pay. I think a few states also charge a annual luxury tax so it would be interesting to see how California compares to other states. No annual luxury tax on RV's here (though there might be on 'ultra-luxury class vehicles') but we do pay .65% for dmv, which could be going to 1.12%.

And for all those that have left our state: I bet you still come back for visits!
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First 20 years were enjoyed. Had to continue there to meet retirement. Last 10 years under cuckoo legislative was a vomit driver. Happiness was selling my home for top dollar in 2004 and seeing Truckee in my rear view mirror east bound on I-80. Lots of folks in CA still see CA as the only place to live happily after retirement. Great for them...support those fruits and nuts.....and 14 children..

If I told you my license fees here in SD..for all three of my vehicles...I'm sure you'd cry.

Under duress, I returned to CA in 2007 to visit friends. That visit confirmed my correct and timely decision to split from cuckoo land. Again, happiness (big time) was seeing Truckee in my rear view mirror and burning motor home tire rubber east bound on I-80.
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Pubtym, not to worry about this Californian choosing South Dakota as a relocation, probably would be next to last place for me, North Dakota taking the top honors.


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I've been living in So. Ca. for over 20 years, my wife is a native Californian and we plan to retire in So. Ca. You can complain all you want but if you know how to cope, plan ahead and pick the right spot, its heaven on earth. How many other places can you surf and fish in the morning, snow ski in the afternoon and spend the night in the desert under a canopy of twinkling stars? Beauty or problems are in the eye of the beholder. We love it.

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Pubtym, not to worry about this Californian choosing South Dakota as a relocation, probably would be next to last place for me, North Dakota taking the top honors.


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Thanks...I feel better knowing that...and your perspective as a current Californian..
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I've been living in So. Ca. for over 20 years, my wife is a native Californian and we plan to retire in So. Ca. You can complain all you want but if you know how to cope, plan ahead and pick the right spot, its heaven on earth. How many other places can you surf and fish in the morning, snow ski in the afternoon and spend the night in the desert under a canopy of twinkling stars? Beauty or problems are in the eye of the beholder. We love it.

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Great coping news...Thanks...

Best wishes for a state budget from the twinkling stars in the legislature..and they all are real beauties...

BTW... CA spent 5 billion on illegals last year..they love it there too..I love it they love it there..
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From everything I have seen/read, California is a social, moral and financial disaster. I used to enjoy the beauty of it but the last time I looked, it was a haven for illegals (moreso than AZ), junkies and truly strange people.

I trust no one on this forum falls into those categories.

In any event, I will no longer go into California for any reason, if possible.
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I guess this has turned into Lets bash Calif. thread.
Ater reading SOME of these posts I wonder why people feel the need to do so. Contributing nothing to its orgional content.
An example is the thread above.
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I just saw on Fox news that California could solve all of their money problems if they would only tap into their off shore oil. The leases would pay 50 billion dollars.....I don't feel so sorry for them now knowing that they are sitting on that kind of money.
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