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06-18-2014, 04:15 PM
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Stopping Power
I have a 95 bounder, my first class A. I noticed that it does not stop as easy as the class C that I had. I've had all brakes replaced including the calipers. it is also hydro assisted. I not sure what to expect with a class A. I do plan ahead and stay alert, but a quick stop does not seem possible. Any in put would be appreciated...Thanks
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06-19-2014, 03:47 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by R1Kirby
I have a 95 bounder, my first class A. I noticed that it does not stop as easy as the class C that I had. I've had all brakes replaced including the calipers. it is also hydro assisted. I not sure what to expect with a class A. I do plan ahead and stay alert, but a quick stop does not seem possible. Any in put would be appreciated...Thanks
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We switched from a new V10 class C to a new V10 class A and I can tell you there does seem to be a difference in stopping. I've read that there may be reasons in terms of the braking and it seems to make sense that the bigger, heavier vehicle would take longer to stop. It takes some getting used to but I'm guessing that's what has to be done....just get used to it. LOL
Having said that we really enjoy our new Bounder and think the new one is way, way better.
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06-19-2014, 05:11 AM
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Monaco Owners Club Texas Boomers Club
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Get air brakes next time..There is a reason they put them on 18 wheelers, dump trucks, school busses, Etc.
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06-19-2014, 07:18 AM
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You are driving a different animal now.... I'm used to driving 70-80 thousand pounds at work,,, and I still give my 11K lb Class A motorhome more room to stop,,, when I can... Air brakes are nice, but they have their limits too.... Just "Drive Ahead" .... Leave yourself room to change lanes if you can... You are not really on vacation till you park the thing.... Ours is a 95 Europa (27' ) on a P32 chassis... Brakes in good shape... But I still have got a few hairs up on my neck with panick stops... IT WON'T !!!! Be careful,,, take your time,,,, look ahead.... Have a great time !!!!
Monkey
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06-19-2014, 08:38 AM
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The Bounders (and other gas chassis coaches) of that era did not have great brakes, so I'm not surprised you find them less capable. The 16" wheels on that coach limit the size of the brakes to a size not much different than the much-lighter Class C you had. Not much can be done except to keep them in top notch shape and drive far ahead, i.e. anticipate the need to slow down. And be very cautious on steep downgrades - cross the top of a hill at low speed and gear way down on the downhill, letting the engine help has much as possible.
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06-24-2014, 04:03 AM
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I was amazed at the stopping power on our Country Coach Dynomax chassis. It is easy to send loose objects flying when stopping quickly. I guess it must be the combo of air brakes and big solid commercial grade brake systems. Is a gas power class A much different?
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06-24-2014, 10:34 PM
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Commenting on comments on braking
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Originally Posted by Gary RVRoamer
The Bounders (and other gas chassis coaches) of that era did not have great brakes, so I'm not surprised you find them less capable. The 16" wheels on that coach limit the size of the brakes to a size not much different than the much-lighter Class C you had. Not much can be done except to keep them in top notch shape and drive far ahead, i.e. anticipate the need to slow down. And be very cautious on steep downgrades - cross the top of a hill at low speed and gear way down on the downhill, letting the engine help has much as possible.
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You may be more knowledgeable on the chassis but my 2014 bounder has 22.5" wheels.
To the comment about getting air brakes, those are usually only associated with diesel powered vehicles to my knowledge. I do know it's not an option for the Bounder I purchased.
I'm not dissatisfied with my braking but as I said I do see a difference from the Class C I had to the Class A. As many people point out, these are bigger vehicles with different dynamics. I can't speak for many but lot of postings seem to deal with perceived issues that are not serious problems due to "that's the way these vehicles are made"... IMO.
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06-25-2014, 05:51 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Kinetic Energy = Mass X Speed... You're driving a VERY different beast!
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06-25-2014, 07:08 AM
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Foretravel Owners Club
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Awareness needs to be high on your duty list. My coach has the air disk brakes like fire trucks PLUS the Allison Retarder with additional 2,000 ft lb of restriction on drive shaft. The net result is, it stops like a car. Try a panic stop test from 65 mph, all loose items pile up in front, toster, silverware, TV controller etc. Also has a joy stick control where using the foot brake is only for stoping at stop signs etc.
Dave M
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06-25-2014, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwmaustin
You may be more knowledgeable on the chassis but my 2014 bounder has 22.5" wheels.
To the comment about getting air brakes, those are usually only associated with diesel powered vehicles to my knowledge. I do know it's not an option for the Bounder I purchased.
I'm not dissatisfied with my braking but as I said I do see a difference from the Class C I had to the Class A. As many people point out, these are bigger vehicles with different dynamics. I can't speak for many but lot of postings seem to deal with perceived issues that are not serious problems due to "that's the way these vehicles are made"... IMO.
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The older Bounders didn't have 22.5" wheels.
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