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Old 01-22-2014, 09:58 AM   #57
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FWIW, a 40 inch waist is not obese on a 6'4" frame...certainly not a marathoner, but not fat.
Thank you. I feel better.
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Hi OP Here! That "40 inch waist" comment was a totally swag. I am 38 plus a bit and my tummy rubbed on the way in for a test sit. Maybe it is designed that way to keep crumbs outa your lap?
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If you want a Class A Toy Hauler with a bedroom, look at the Outlaw 37MD. I really want to see one in person too, but they are all presold before they arrive at the dealer...never one at any RV shows.

Of course there is the Canyon Star 3920 and 3921...exactly the same chassis, similar build materials, slightly different floor plan, but $50,000 higher price tag(?).

The loft is the best part of the Outlaw...dedicated bedroom that gets no traffic from the garage and uses no valuable floorspace. I'm in my 50's and have no problem using the loft.

BTW, Voltage (by Dutchmen) and Cyclone (by Heartland) are Thor Industries brands.

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You are right. Several of the high end coaches had a Munsters / Addams Family feel to the interior. Dark colors, overly ornate trims, few small windows. Instead of camping in comfort and enjoying the outdoors, these felt more like hiding in your road cave. Perhaps if you spend your time parked next to a brick wall waiting for your next curtain call, this may be the way to go.
X2 !! ... many just felt "heavy".
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X2 !! ... many just felt "heavy".
Oh My Gosh...that's a great way to describe it! "Heavy"

We have looked at SO many RV's and the ones that "feel" open, "light" and "homey" are getting to be fewer and farther between.

I know the makers still use lighter stain colors and lighter fabrics - as seen in the brochures, but many of the models that are at the shows and dealer lots are full of dark cherry wood and such. It is beautiful, but makes an RV feel smaller inside.

Of course, the dealers usually order what sells...so we might be odd.

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Really enjoyed the photo's 2labs posted. Called DW over by saying "Honey, look at this sweet coach".

Brought back to earth when she said "Look at the front TV". When you are tall, front TVs will give you a "standing eight count". Don't ask!!

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Oh My Gosh...that's a great way to describe it! "Heavy"

We have looked at SO many RV's and the ones that "feel" open, "light" and "homey" are getting to be fewer and farther between.

I know the makers still use lighter stain colors and lighter fabrics - as seen in the brochures, but many of the models that are at the shows and dealer lots are full of dark cherry wood and such. It is beautiful, but makes an RV feel smaller inside.

Of course, the dealers usually order what sells...so we might be odd.

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Yup ... the interiors of the Airstreams made me go ... aaaaaah (as in bright, cheery, and soothing).
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Really enjoyed the photo's 2labs posted. Called DW over by saying "Honey, look at this sweet coach".

Brought back to earth when she said "Look at the front TV". When you are tall, front TVs will give you a "standing eight count". Don't ask!!

Kerry
Not a problem ... the front TV is an option on the 4369 floor plan

It appears this Mountain Aire has all - or nearly all - the options:

- front TV
- buffet sidebar with extending table
- all electric with 8 AGM batteries
- external tv
- slide trays
- outdoor fridge

plus a few more I am sure.
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The size issues all stem from the fact that an RV is designed backwards. In designing a house, you design the rooms, then build walls and a roof around them. An RV, on the other hand, starts with a fixed size box and the designer then has to stuff the box with rooms, appliances and storage. If something doesn't quite fit, a few inches are borrowed from adjacent areas. This is how we end up with benches that seat 1.75 people, or WC's where you can't close the door because your knees are protruding into the hall. And before anyone gets on my case, I fully appreciate the fact that if I exercised more, my legs would be shorter.

Prevost had an excellent demo of this concept at their booth. The outside was a finished coach. The inside was an empty box with plywood walls, floors and ceiling. I think the point was to illustrate (at considerable expense) the fact that you can order anything you like inside.

When we walk into a household furniture store, certain assumptions of standard sizes apply. Table and chair height, counter depth, etc. These assumptions are not valid in an RV because of the dollhouse effect. Just because it looks like it seats two adults, don't assume it does. Try it.
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