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Old 12-08-2014, 12:13 AM   #15
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Diesel Pushers that start up early in the morning and then idle for a half hour before leaving.
I chalk that up to ignorance. Yes, 30 years ago that was standard practice for heavy haulers. in the last 20 years there is no diesel engine manufacturer that recommends idling for more than 10 minutes. In fact, Cummins says not to idle for more than 10 minutes.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:45 AM   #16
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Our favorite campground had some immigrants camping. The put their trailer in backwards so their lights shown on our rig and left them on all night but that wasn't a problem. They cut through sites at will, but that wasn't a problem. They fished after dark, against park rules, but that wasn't a problem. But when the used an empty site to wash their dishes and clean their fish, leaving the food and guts on the ground THAT was a problem as the park was set up for RV's only so no drains for outside dish washing etc.
Management talked to them several times and we were told they were no longer allowed in the park, that was several years ago and we haven't seen them since.

Then there was last year when a camper let his dog run loose and fished after dark. Seems his dog left a pile and in the dark he stepped in it!! Justice at last!
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:17 AM   #17
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I try to take most of this stuff in stride. Just thought it would be fun to kick it around and vent some of our gripes.

Here is one that worked itself out before we could say anything. A couple in the CG we are in have two large but young dogs I don't think they are one bit mean but playful and charge at our dogs to play. Our old girl was never much the playful type does loves other dogs but is just to old for that stuff. Our younger one is very playful but a little timid with dogs larger than him. At least twice those two came charging out at our two unleashed. Once in the dark. The next day we see them run back to their site, no leash and no owner anywhere to be seen. The door opens and in they go. Hmmm I bet they picked up after them, huh?

Thinking then that might be the last straw and a trip to the office might be a good idea. Before we can get there the park manager rolls up tho those people's site on a golf car and yells at them "KEEP THOSE DOGS ON A LEASH OR GET OUT" I guess we weren't the only ones unhappy with their act.
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:22 AM   #18
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I guess we've been pretty lucky so far as we have not observed a lot of bad behavior in the the places we usually stay. Even on our recent 4 month coast-to-coast trip, most folks seem to obey the rules. Now, we have not traveled a lot during peak times (summer) and have generally stayed in privately-owned RV parks. I do remember when we were younger and camping in a tent and then a pop up camper, we stayed in a lot of state and national parks. We did observe some 'human stupidity' in some of those situations.

The RV park we are in now levies a $100 fine if caught not scooping dog poo and for any reckless GC operation. Not sure they could ever collect those fines but you are required to sign a form agreed to comply with the rules.
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:24 AM   #19
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We had neighbors leave the "scare" or bright outside light of their fiver on and, at bedtime, was shining right in the window of our TT bedroom. I got up, knocked on the door and asked them to turn it off. They were very apologetic. The next morning, they apologized again, explained they had just picked the new fiver up from the dealer with their new truck and were learning about it, would we like a tour? That did it, we bought a new truck a few months later, and a similar fiver in the spring!
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:58 AM   #20
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With all due kindness as written words include my smiling with understanding and compassion at this thread.

I believe that those of "us" that gripe about their neighbors behaviors apparently believe we are part of an rv "in" group, where there are a mutually understood set of rules of behavior that are just common sense, and should be obvious to all who aspire to be part of the "in" group.

Well that is true to some extent, for some of us, but the "in" group is only a sub-group of all rvers...though maybe and hopefully a very large group.

The thing about rvers is you can't toss miscreants out. It feels good to do so in other groups. But, no you can't toss these miscreants out of their rvs or out of the park or off the premises.

The irritated members of the "in" group, usually the nicest of people, dislike that their groupthink doesn’t extend to everyone and seem regularly irritated that some of the rvers don’t care and don't worry about making friends or being popular or joining the party so to speak.

Well, it ain't gonna change, so you might as well release yourself from your irritation and get on with enjoying the rv experience.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:12 AM   #21
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With all due kindness as written words include my smiling with understanding and compassion at this thread.

I believe that those of "us" that gripe about their neighbors behaviors apparently believe we are part of an rv "in" group, where there are a mutually understood set of rules of behavior that are just common sense, and should be obvious to all who aspire to be part of the "in" group.

Well that is true to some extent, for some of us, but the "in" group is only a sub-group of all rvers...though maybe and hopefully a very large group.

The thing about rvers is you can't toss miscreants out. It feels good to do so in other groups. But, no you can't toss these miscreants out of their rvs or out of the park or off the premises.

The irritated members of the "in" group, usually the nicest of people, dislike that their groupthink doesnít extend to everyone and seem regularly irritated that some of the rvers donít care and don't worry about making friends or being popular or joining the party so to speak.

Well, it ain't gonna change, so you might as well release yourself from your irritation and get on with enjoying the rv experience.
There are a lot of serious problems in the world that need attention. How people enjoy camping isn't very high on my list.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:20 AM   #22
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The three gripes that I have (the DW has a couple others), have been brought up by others - barking for hours, pooping and unleashed dogs, uncontrolled kids along with that idiot that has to start his rattlin' DP at 0 dark thirty while he loudly breaks camp including 20 minutes trying to hook up his toad. When we travel, we try to do it before schools close for the summer (mid June) and after they open in the fall (Labor Day week). In the meantime, we sit at a seasonal site in a fairly small CG that is pretty well controlled by the owners as far as dogs and out of control kids. Yeah, there are always weekenders and travelers, but seldom a problem. Other then that - it is a time to relax and some of what I expect in the S&B neighborhood just aren't appropriate in a leisure time place such as a campground.
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And the 5th wheel owner with the older, very noisy, Dodge or Ford Diesel pick up truck who leaves the damn thing running for 20 or 30 minutes after arriving at the site. (Sorry, too much coffee this morning, but the question was asked...).

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People who light up their campsite like a mall parking lot and then leave the site. Also the 5th wheels that have that big light on the drivers side and leave it on all night. Some of us enjoy looking at the stars and you can't do it with all that light pollution.
Once we stayed in Ocean Lakes in Myrtle Beach, and the travel trailer next to ours had strips of high intensity lights mounted to the frame under the rig. It was so bright that it felt as if the light was literally screaming as it shone through the micropores in our motorhome's wall. After about 9:00 that evening they all went inside, but of course, they left the lights on. I called the front office (thankfully they were staffed after hours) and they sent Security to ask the guy to shut off his lights. After some loud grumbling the owner finally shut them down and let us all have some peace.

The next week we went up to Cape Hatteras and were parked next to a trailer with one of those 10 inch "headlights" mounted above the door - right beside our bedroom window. And, you guessed it, he left it on all night. The next morning we asked to move to a better site. As we were packing up, the park manager arrived to give the guy a good dressing down...

While a few RV parks do include turning off lights after hours in their etiquette list, few actually seem to enforce it.
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Also the 5th wheels that have that big light on the drivers side and leave it on all night. Some of us enjoy looking at the stars and you can't do it with all that light pollution.
The previous 5th wheel had one of those Big Lights on each side. The new 5th wheel only has one on the door side. In all honesty, I've never turned it on except at the PDI.
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Old 12-08-2014, 04:06 PM   #26
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My Christmas lights go on around 5:30 off around midnight (Few minutes before) come on again aroudn 6AM for a couple hours and off.

Lights consist of two projectors that bounce light off the RV and a flag pole with a string of C-6 LEDs and a 4' Pre lit tree on top.. My neighbors have expressed pleasure, not anger, so I guess I did it right.
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I don't let the little stuff bother me. I've experienced all those things and never gave it a second thought. The last campground where I stayed, I pulled into my site to find tent lines and stakes from his pop up expansion on my site. I got my mh in place and put my slide out. It went over his tent lines. It didn't touch and all was good. I could have been a jerk and yelled at him to move his tent. It didn't bother me at all. We're all out to have a good time.
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We had neighbors leave the "scare" or bright outside light of their fiver on and, at bedtime, was shining right in the window of our TT bedroom. I got up, knocked on the door and asked them to turn it off. They were very apologetic. The next morning, they apologized again, explained they had just picked the new fiver up from the dealer with their new truck and were learning about it, would we like a tour? That did it, we bought a new truck a few months later, and a similar fiver in the spring!
I was going to mention this. I am an experienced camper and have left the scare light on accidentally on a few occasions when in my driveway. I think in most cases it is just that, an accident.
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