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Old 09-04-2011, 03:34 PM   #15
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......They only lasted 15k-20k miles, even if babied. Punctures were a common problem. Handling was lousy, traction worse.......Now we have tires that are good for 60-80k miles and at least 7 years (I don't subscribe to the 5 year notion). Maybe 10 years if you are lucky. Punctures are a rare thing, the tires grip well on all kinds of surfaces and roll all day long high speeds and temperatures. ...........
Brings back memories of breaking down a wheel in the driveway to patch, repair and/or replace a tube so that I would have a spare so I would be allowed to use the family car for a date. Even the early years of tubless were not that great on longevity. Back then,15 to 20k on the car and worse on my my dads work truck. Seems like we were always looking for a sale on tires. I started paying attention to age and weather checking of tires on my second assignment to the desert southwest with it's heat and sun damage on both daily drivers and the campers. Generally speaking, it's five max on the drivers and yet to be known on the RV as it's my first Class A.
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Old 09-04-2011, 04:10 PM   #16
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At the heart of any tire replacement program is an inspection. Since there doesn't seem to be a consensus of when to change tires why don't we try to come up with one that will at least take some of the guess work out of it and be more accurate than replacing them according to a calendar.

Here's what I plan to do. My tires are four years old. I take fairly good care of them by keeping them correctly inflated, clean, dressed with Aerospace 303, covered and up on wood planks if I'm parked on dirt. The tires at this point are showing a few minor sidewall cracks and the tread is wearing well, so I'm not thinking getting tires.

When the sidewalls start to show signs of questionable wear, I'll remove the right rear outside tire, remove it from the rim and have the tire inspected by a “knowledgeable” tire expert. If the tire is normal inside and the level of checking and cracking indicates the tire is still serviceable, the tire will go back on the RV until the outside condition of the tire changes or it is exposed to some abuse such as going over a curb or hitting a road object. At which time I'll pull the tire and inspect it again. Hopefully, this will help take some of the guess work out of tire replacement.
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Rjay---from the darkness comes the light---good plan. Actually getting facts to decide----hummm seems-----well logical.
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Rjay---from the darkness comes the light---good plan. Actually getting facts to decide----hummm seems-----well logical.


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The 7 year replacement time was Michelin's recommendation, but they have increased that time to 10 years if there is no visible damage and the tread is not worn out.

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I"m not sure how this 7 year thing came into being, but in my almost 30 years of owning a class a I have never had to replace a tire before almost 10 years, save one that blew as a result of my own fault . I do dilligently use 303 and my RV does not sit idle for months on end. Could be thats some contributing factors.
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Been running Michelin for 30 years now and never heard that. Ignorance is bliss!!!!
Guess it took their engineers that long to figure it out.
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To prolong the life of tires drive, drive, drive. If you have to let it sit for a month or more soak the tires with 303, inside and outside, and then cover them.

The tires on my first car, a 52 Chevy, needed to be replaced every 10-12K miles and that was hoping the inner tube didn't fail before then. And white walls cost extra. Tires have come a long way baby.
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To prolong the life of tires drive, drive, drive. If you have to let it sit for a month or more soak the tires with 303, inside and outside, and then cover them.

The tires on my first car, a 52 Chevy, needed to be replaced every 10-12K miles and that was hoping the inner tube didn't fail before then. And white walls cost extra. Tires have come a long way baby.
I'm sure to be flamed by the Michelin FanBoys but I really don't think that has all that much to do with tire life. Our Aspect had 50,000 miles on it when we bought it, the previous owners put 10,000 miles a year on the Michelins and they were all cracked on the sidewalls. Plenty of tread left.
I think the biggest scam is buying overpriced "premium" tires such as Michelins and accepting the "fact" that they will have sidewall cracks and need to be replaced after 7 years. Totally unacceptable in my book.
We replaced ours with BFGoodrich Commercial T/As. So far 8000 miles with no problems, we'll see how they hold up. And, Made in the USA
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Amazing isn't it!!! The flamer is worried about being flamed. I have been running Michelins for almost 30 years without any issues.
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AZ bound,
Well I'm happy you've had good luck with your Michelins. I've had two sets on vehicles I've owned and found they weren't worth the hype and expense. The forums are full of Michelin owners who are replacing their tires at 6-7 years for cracked sidewalls. When did this become the industry standard? I, for one, refuse to spend $$$$ on a product that has this poor a reputation.
Most dealers won't honor warranties for cracked sidewalls because they don't want to deal with Michelin. Seems like a rip off to me.
Maybe the BFGs have the same issue, time will tell.
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4-5 years, and then replace - REGARDLESS of miles?
Where did you get that info other than from the Internet as an old wives tale?
Michelin says up to 10 years, I ran my last set of Michelins about 8 years and I KNOW they were overloaded according to Michelins chart.
According to the chart my tires required 125 psi for the weight on them, Michelin gave me a letter on their letterhead allowing the tires to be run at 120 psi (the max the wheels would take). I ran them that way since the day I got the rig and no tire problems.
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I 2nd 303 Aerospace Protectant

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Here is the stuff I mentioned earlier--- many people on this site rave about this stuff.
Been using the product for 4-5 years....I replaced my old tires at 6 years because of tread depth and cracking on the sidewalls. The new tires are 1-1/2 years old, so will see if using 303 helps any.

You will find 303 which is water based will not make your tire shine like all the rest of the "tire shine" products, but will make them look new and lasts for a few weeks or month instead of just a week or so.
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Here is the stuff I mentioned earlier--- many people on this site rave about this stuff.
Michelin used to say 303 was the ONLY thing you could use on their tires, then they came out with their "own" brand and now say only it can be used. Except it appears to be out of production with no known date for new production and they still say NO to 303. Michelin claims they can detect what you used and will deny warranty for the use of the wrong "dressing"
Personally I use 303.
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Well I'm happy you've had good luck with your Michelins. I've had two sets on vehicles I've owned and found they weren't worth the hype and expense. The forums are full of Michelin owners who are replacing their tires at 6-7 years for cracked sidewalls. When did this become the industry standard? I, for one, refuse to spend $$$$ on a product that has this poor a reputation.
Most dealers won't honor warranties for cracked sidewalls because they don't want to deal with Michelin. Seems like a rip off to me.
Maybe the BFGs have the same issue, time will tell.
To each their own.
So far you are the only one here pointing toward Michelin as being a poor product. Even the OP did not mention a brand,. Flame away
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