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Old 04-07-2012, 10:52 PM   #43
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So if I am reading this correctly, I can use a portable surge protector inside the electrical compartment in the basement? It does not need to be out by the pedestal? I understand that I would have to use a "extension cord" and that cord would be at risk. But I would rather not have the surge protector in plain site of thieves.
Is your electrical cord hard-wired on a take up reel? If so, you would have to modify the setup to provide connection points to plug in the surge protector.

I've seen locks that prevent someone from disconnecting the surge protector unless the cut your electrical cord. But if you're in an area where theft of the protector could be an issue, that might not help.

If I had to muck with the wiring in the electrical compartment to be able to use a portable protector, I'd probably just put in a hard wired one.

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Old 04-07-2012, 11:17 PM   #44
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Is your electrical cord hard-wired on a take up reel? If so, you would have to modify the setup to provide connection points to plug in the surge protector.

I've seen locks that prevent someone from disconnecting the surge protector unless the cut your electrical cord. But if you're in an area where theft of the protector could be an issue, that might not help.

If I had to muck with the wiring in the electrical compartment to be able to use a portable protector, I'd probably just put in a hard wired one.

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My electric cord is wired to the transfer switch. But I have 3 or 4 extension cords. These are real RV cords. 10-3 Gauge or whatever it is. I have these cords because we have some land in the woods with a pedestal but the ideal place for us to park is approx 60 ft from the pedestal. Hence the extension cords. So anyway, I would just use an extension cord from the CG pedestal to inside the basement compartment, then the surge protector, then into the actual RV electric cord. Sound feasible to do?

I dont really want to spend the extra $$$ to hardwire one in, because our MH is not one we plan to keep for many years. It probably has, at most, 2 more years with us before an upgrade. It is our first MH.
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That would work but I would be leery of how much voltage drop you're getting when you stack up that many cords. Have you ever checked the voltage at your breaker panel against what it is at the plug/pedestal?

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You could cut the power cord in the bay and put a plug on the RV side and a receptacle on the power cord end. That way you can place your portable unit inside the bay and not use the extra cord.





I can unplug and remove the SurgeGuard from the circuit if needed and then plug the cable back together.
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That would work but I would be leery of how much voltage drop you're getting when you stack up that many cords. Have you ever checked the voltage at your breaker panel against what it is at the plug/pedestal?

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I have not. Im "learning as you go" type of thing. My wife and I are in our 30s and neither one of us are electricians...

We have used it like that for 7 days straight a few times last summer. Didnt have any problems, but I did notice that the AC seemed to struggle to stay "fired up" at times. I guess its something I will have to look into.
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Thanks for the suggestions Richard but Bishop Christensen talked me through trouble shooting the problem and we could not find anything tripped. I really was hoping it would be that easy.
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We have a hardwired Progressive Industries unit. I got it at a rally at the Tampa RV show the day after a power surge (or maybe bad neutral) on the temporary RV parking power connections blew my transfer switch, and blew out a couple thousand worth of electronics on other rigs on the same circuit.

Newmar is now installing a transfer switch with built-in surge protection on the high end coaches with the Silverleaf system. Silverleaf wouldn't allow them to use their products until the coaches had a surge protection system.

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I wonder why Newmar or any other coach maker doesn't install surge protectors as standard equipment? The cost is so nominal compared to other options that maufactures put on their coaches, not to mention the safety factor of having it factory installed
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I wonder why Newmar or any other coach maker doesn't install surge protectors as standard equipment? The cost is so nominal compared to other options that maufactures put on their coaches, not to mention the safety factor of having it factory installed
Bottom line $$$$$$$$

A better question is why doesn't the transfer switch manufacturers include surge and over/under voltage protection. FWIW, some are finally doing so.

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Agree with both comments. The transfer switch used in the newer high end coaches has the surge protection built in. It would be nice if they used that switch across all models.

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Being a retired and licensed electrician in South Carolina; I mounted a small junction box on the inside of my rear bunper that houses a 30 AMP Buss-Type fuse....hard wired the box to the TT, and installed the other end of the power lead to the other side of the box to go to the pedestal, Did all of this for less than $75.00, and never have to worry about bad neutrals or surges, etc. ANYTHING that pushes it above 30 Amps blows the fuse in split seconds....................then I just unplug from the pedestal, take my meter and make sure nothing is going to ground, then replace the fuse, plug in and continue RV'ing. It is not fancy, but it is reliable !
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Question people. How would one go about keeping a portable S.P. from getting stolen? Think this is even an issue? At about $100, I'm paranoid about it disappearing.
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Question people. How would one go about keeping a portable S.P. from getting stolen? Think this is even an issue? At about $100, I'm paranoid about it disappearing.
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Being a retired and licensed electrician in South Carolina; I mounted a small junction box on the inside of my rear bunper that houses a 30 AMP Buss-Type fuse....hard wired the box to the TT, and installed the other end of the power lead to the other side of the box to go to the pedestal, Did all of this for less than $75.00, and never have to worry about bad neutrals or surges, etc. ANYTHING that pushes it above 30 Amps blows the fuse in split seconds....................then I just unplug from the pedestal, take my meter and make sure nothing is going to ground, then replace the fuse, plug in and continue RV'ing. It is not fancy, but it is reliable !
With all due respect as I am NOT a licensed electrician however I do know enough about the stuff to be very dangerous, YIKES!

Your 30 amp Buss-Type fuse box sounds more like an expensive in-line fuse holder versus a Surge Guard EMS system that will protect all of your expensive devices inside your coach, your electrical system and yourself.

If it were me, I would call Tommy at Progressive Industries and discuss your situation with him to see what he has to say.

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Our converter was fried when lightning struck a pole in the campground. I am planning on buying a surge protector this year.
We definitely have a surge protector but they are useless against a lighting strike. But I agree better safe than sorry.
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