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Old 08-22-2019, 03:33 PM   #29
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Recession is always coming, you can't just pick and choose this indicator and that as a sign of recession.



Poorly managed, outdated business model industry, shows poor sales, is not proof a recession is coming, this can apply to big department stores, or the RV industry, it does not mean the overall economy is bad.


The question here is why are people not buying new RV's, personally I think it is a combination of many factors, quality control, more used RV's on the market, people waiting for next year's model to come out, lack of natural disasters this year having people move into RV's for temporary housing, etc.
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Of course. But RV production/delivery/sales have been declining for 18 months from the historic highs of 2016 and 2017. This is not an "end of summer slowdown."
I hear you saying "things are returning to normal".
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Been to the tiffin factory and newmar. Problem is expanding lines and back orders. Red Bay Alabama doesn’t have hardly an empty parking space
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Don’t you believe it. Things have never looked better for the economy and rving.
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Been to the tiffin factory and newmar. Problem is expanding lines and back orders. Red Bay Alabama doesn’t have hardly an empty parking space
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:43 PM   #34
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In our travels we pass by many RV dealers, travels trailers by the hundreds, Motorhomes and 5th’s by the hundreds and I question, how do this people do it? Can they sales that many? It’s like if all those rv’s would be sold even Walmart parking lot would be full much less campgrounds why do they have to build so much?

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The Marine-Boating market and the RV market are feast or famine type sales markets, it's either doom and gloom, or Rainbows and Golden pots. I believe the RV industry has overbuilt. Plus how many times has a newcomer to this forum been told how hard it is to find campgrounds? Reservations in National Parks are booked a year out.... The new millennial young crowd want instant satisfaction and don't want to have to plan a year for a vacation. As a full-timer, we do see the younger vacationing crowd, but they are well outnumbered by the Baby Boomers and the mobile construction crowd.
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The sky is falling! More chicken littles crying.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:42 PM   #37
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The sky is falling! More chicken littles crying.

Chicken Littles - slider burger-size chicken sandwiches. Don't tell Popeye's...

So what comes first, the chicken or the egg? Is the drop in RV shipments a sign of impending economic downturn, or is it a sign a downturn has already begun? Or are there just too many thousands of new RVs sitting on dealer lots, making money only for the floor plan financiers?

When Tiffen and Newmar don't sell every top end spot on their schedule, there's a problem. Until then? We'll have to wait and see.
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New sales down used sales up

It might have a lot to do with poor quality in the new ones and cost, way to much money for new and always braking down.
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I would pay more attention to the inverted yield curve as a predictor of a future recession. Not fail-safe either.


If the network cancels "Going RV" you may take that as an indication that the RV industry is already in significant decline. Until then, let's not panic. As someone has already pointed out, the RV industry is highly cyclical - "feast or famine." Could it continue at that torrid pace indefinitely?

Just my opinions. Only hubris compels a person to believe that they can predict the future.
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My dog got run over just before the last recession. I'll keep him in the house so the market doesn't crash again.

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That's it you people talk a slow down or recession and sure enough we will have one. Remember stock brokers we make money every time people panic and sell the again when they buy. Our economy always goes through up and down cycles it's just the nature of the beast but when the unknowing talk negative it's sure to happen and the experts pushing it will make money.
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That's it you people talk a slow down or recession and sure enough we will have one. Remember stock brokers we make money every time people panic and sell the again when they buy. Our economy always goes through up and down cycles it's just the nature of the beast but when the unknowing talk negative it's sure to happen and the experts pushing it will make money.

So when people see signs of tornado weather it is the people talking about it that cause the tornado?
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