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Old 10-19-2010, 09:03 PM   #15
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Any idea what happened to the grey and fresh water tanks? the black tank appears to be intact - thank god.

Another good reminder to keep'er under 60MPH.
I suspect the black water tank was emptied inside the cab of the Burban.

Sorry....but this is REALLY dumb. Slow down and enjoy the ride.
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It appears to me that this was a strong durable tow vehicle for the travel trailer and thus gave unwarranted confidence to the driver. The trailer will still sway no matter how big and heavy the tow vehicle is and at some point there is no return for the trailer especially if panic sets in and brakes are applied.
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:21 AM   #17
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Well it was a newer Suburban - could not tell if it was a 1500 or 2500 either way I don't think it was overloaded (the lowest tow rating is 7300 lbs). However there could have been other factors involved in the crash - speed was obvious however the TT axles could have been poorly aligned, they could have had a low tire on the TT. Recently I heard where a locked up wheel caused a wreck (speed was not a factor there) I am sure that his insurance company will want to know what led up to the wreck - before they write the check.
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:41 AM   #18
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Hmm, that's not 10 miles from my house. The next hill is where the Tanger outlet is, correct?

That's a Suburban 1500, you can tell by the wheels and the rear door. That area has some funny wind patterns, there's holes in the trees that allow sudden cross winds to go across the interstate, etc. If he was already weaving I'd venture a guess he found one of the cross winds and got a nasty surprise.

I tend to hover around 65 max and it's usually steady as can be. However the first sign of an unnecessary wiggle and I'll check up as necessary. It's just agitating to chase a trailer all over a lane.

Going to see Mickey last week I was passed by a 40ish foot motorcoach pulling a pretty big enclosed trailer, I'd venture a guess he was running 75-80 and it was all over the place. I guess he was late to the Perry fair.
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We've been passed (when traveling at 60mph) by many pulling 5th wheels and vehicles pulling boats on trailers going faster than 70mph.
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Hmm, that's not 10 miles from my house. The next hill is where the Tanger outlet is, correct?
Correct !

As for wind there was none whatsoever on this day, so we guess that wasn't the cause.
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That's a Suburban 1500, you can tell by the wheels and the rear door. .
I know that the 2500 burb has different wheels (more lugs) but how could you tell from the photos.

I have not heard of a different rear door between the two - now there is a difference between a Tahoe and a Burb - the Tahoe's rear door is curved to fit over the rear wheel - the Tahoe sits on a shorter wheelbase. The doors and rear windows are the two ways of telling a Burb from a Hoe.

Other possibilites for the accident include the driver having to make a quick move due to being cut off by another driver. Still speed is probably a major factor.
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Would have liked to have been able to see the hitch set-up as to whether or not he had w/d bars and a sway set-up..
It is a Suburban with the straight rear doors.
Saw a guy the other day with one of those Volvo SUVs with one of these R/vision or something like a big semi teardrop combo,on the back. The trailer was white with red lettering and was either 19 or 21' long. The rear bumper was modified for the hitch and didn't have sway or w/d set-up.The response to my question about towing it was that he had the big engine and the dealer said that it was capable of towing a trailer.I asked him about the hitch and he said that he had taken it to U-haul,but they wouldn't install one on his car,so he went online and he and a friend did it..
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Would have liked to have been able to see the hitch set-up as to whether or not he had w/d bars and a sway set-up..
It is a Suburban with the straight rear doors.
Saw a guy the other day with one of those Volvo SUVs with one of these R/vision or something like a big semi teardrop combo,on the back. The trailer was white with red lettering and was either 19 or 21' long. The rear bumper was modified for the hitch and didn't have sway or w/d set-up.The response to my question about towing it was that he had the big engine and the dealer said that it was capable of towing a trailer.I asked him about the hitch and he said that he had taken it to U-haul,but they wouldn't install one on his car,so he went online and he and a friend did it..
After ignoring U-Hauls refusal, someone should have told him "her's your sign".
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I know that the 2500 burb has different wheels (more lugs) but how could you tell from the photos.

I have not heard of a different rear door between the two - now there is a difference between a Tahoe and a Burb - the Tahoe's rear door is curved to fit over the rear wheel - the Tahoe sits on a shorter wheelbase. The doors and rear windows are the two ways of telling a Burb from a Hoe.

Other possibilites for the accident include the driver having to make a quick move due to being cut off by another driver. Still speed is probably a major factor.
Last pic, you can see the wheel enough to tell by it's spokes and you can see enough of the center cap to make a 95% guess it's a six lug Burb setup. The 1500s had six lugs, 2500s have eight.

The difference between a Burb and a Tahoe is what I was referring to, sorry I wasn't clear. The Suburban being longer will inspire more confidence in it's stability. Of course using common sense tends to help.

I went by there this morning but couldn't tell much but the road was covered in dew making it hard to see stripes. I'm leaving later tomorrow so I'll see if I can do a little armchair accident scene reconstruction.
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We just returned from a trip to Central Tennessee. And I ask myself “Self” why do you torture and aggravate yourself to do this. The posted speed limits are 70 mph which means that almost everyone but me is doing 80 or 85 mph. I’m locked in at 60 or 65 mph. Now I need to change lanes and I’m not going fast enough to slide into the other lane. My better half asks “do you have your turn signal on?” I reply “it’s been on for twenty minutes”. So I finally just start trying to ease on over and I find someone driving something smaller and feels intimidated and backs off to let me in. If they would stay at 70 mph I can speed up long enough to merge to the other lane. But I refuse to speed up to 80 or 85 mph. And a lot of these passing me were ball mounted Travel Trailer or Horse Trailers or vehicles pulling Trailers.
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We just returned from a trip to Central Tennessee. And I ask myself “Self” why do you torture and aggravate yourself to do this. The posted speed limits are 70 mph which means that almost everyone but me is doing 80 or 85 mph. I’m locked in at 60 or 65 mph. Now I need to change lanes and I’m not going fast enough to slide into the other lane. My better half asks “do you have your turn signal on?” I reply “it’s been on for twenty minutes”. So I finally just start trying to ease on over and I find someone driving something smaller and feels intimidated and backs off to let me in. If they would stay at 70 mph I can speed up long enough to merge to the other lane. But I refuse to speed up to 80 or 85 mph. And a lot of these passing me were ball mounted Travel Trailer or Horse Trailers or vehicles pulling Trailers.
Sounds all too familiar
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On the I 95 in Florida I pull out to pass and immediately I get the high beam flashing from cars that don't like to slow down to 80 miles per hour. I cruise at around 60 but might bump it up to 70 when passing if necessary. Impatient people annoy me. Oh well they make the rest of us look good.
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