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Old 10-08-2012, 07:45 AM   #15
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I hope I'm not making a wrong assumption. I too leave mine on auto while traveling but when I plug it in at the CG I still leave it on auto. I just figured it would automatically switch over to electric. You mean I have to manually switch it over from auto to electric otherwise it will still run on propane? I don't want it to run on propane while at the CG. I'd rather it used electric while there. So I have to make the switch manually?
The Auto setting typically switches back and forth between propane and 120VAC without human intervention. If 120VAC is available, the fridge will use it. If not, it will switch over to propane. When you arrive at the campground and plug into shore power, it will switch back to 120VAC.

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Old 10-08-2012, 07:59 AM   #16
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We keep the refer on "Auto", gas when traveling, elect. when parked.
I have never turned off the valve on the propane tank since I bought the MH.
And I don't turn off any applinaces when I fuel up, if you don't like that,
don't park near me....

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The reason you should not leave your gas appliances on while fueling is they have an open flame when cycling (burning). This can ignite fumes from an overfill, spill, etc.. Turning off the main propane gas valve is not the concern, open flames in a gas station is the concern.

If you are filling a Diesel vehicle there is still gas customers in the general area, so no free pass there either.
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I hope I'm not making a wrong assumption. I too leave mine on auto while traveling but when I plug it in at the CG I still leave it on auto. I just figured it would automatically switch over to electric. You mean I have to manually switch it over from auto to electric otherwise it will still run on propane? I don't want it to run on propane while at the CG. I'd rather it used electric while there. So I have to make the switch manually?
You are correct about the automatic setting. On auto. the refrigerator will run on AC if it senses 120 volts and will change over automatically to gas if no AC is present.
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If you are filling a Diesel vehicle there is still gas customers in the general area, so no free pass there either.
Not at the diesel only fuel islands of a truck stop.

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FYI - Diesel vapors are FLAMMABLE when mixed with air, otherwise your engine would not run. It simply has a higher flash point temp then gasoline making it minimumly safer. Fought many flammable liquid fires involving diesel, kerosene, crude oil, gasoline, ethonol, gasoline, jet fuel etc.
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The flash points (the point at which vapors above a volatile combustible substance will ignite when exposed to flame) at standard atmospheric pressure for gasoline and #2 diesel fuel are -45 degF and 125 degF respectively.

This can be verified HERE.

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I think that it is ok to keep your propane tank on while driving EPA says that.

I think it is more dangerous at a gas pump re-fueling with your cell phone in your ear, static electricity you know , not good safe practice .

Any open flame while re-fueling gasoline is dangerous like pilot lights HWH, oven, or refer on propane .

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My point exatcly Rusty. The DOT and NFPA classifies diesel as a flammable liquid, with class B AFFF firefighting foam as a vapor suppressant to prevent ignition of evolving vapor or extingush a fire. Diesel spilled on hot pavement in the summer rapidly evolves flammable and ignitable vapors and in the presence of an igniton source will ignite.
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Yep, if the ambient air temperature in the vicinity of my fridge burner (which is 5+ feet off the ground) were at or above 125 degF, and if my RV was parked in a standing pool of diesel fuel, I could have a problem.

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Agree with Rusty. There are just to many specific criteria that needs to be met to get diesel vapors to ignite. Unless you are fueling in the vicinity of gas, or propane dispensers. I only fuel around diesel pumps so that was the basis of my previous question. The discussion was interesting tho. Jmho
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The amient air temp does not need to be 125F any surface at or above 125f that contacts the diesel will create the ignitable vapor, At that point any ignition source will touch it off. Think about when you squirt lighter fuild (high flash point FL) onto your hot charcol. Many times it will emitt white vapor cloud and no flame. Then toss in a match....whooooof. The high flash point relitively stabe lighter fuild was preheated and turned to the flammable vapor. Granted Diesel is a higher flash point then lighter fluid but trust me it does happen..been there. Be safe my freinds.
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I guess I'm a miracle kid. When I was a teen I worked as a gas jockey at our local ESSO station and myself and all the other jockeys would smoke while pumping the gas; but it was OK because 95% of the customers in the cars we were fueling were smoking.

I guess it wasn't dangerous back then because the term Net nanny hadn't been invented yet!
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I guess I'm a miracle kid. When I was a teen I worked as a gas jockey at our local ESSO station and myself and all the other jockeys would smoke while pumping the gas; but it was OK because 95% of the customers in the cars we were fueling were smoking.

I guess it wasn't dangerous back then because the term Net nanny hadn't been invented yet!
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We keep the refer on "Auto", gas when traveling, elect. when parked.
I have never turned off the valve on the propane tank since I bought the MH.
And I don't turn off any applinaces when I fuel up, if you don't like that,
don't park near me....

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