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Old 08-20-2012, 04:12 PM   #15
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I'm on a Freightliner Chassis with a Cat Engine, both identified on the body of the coach. It's a tough argument with County Mounties that it isn't a truck if he has a quota to meet. So if it says No Trucks and nothing else I find another way. There is a street marked No Trucks on my way home and no other reasonable way to get back here and I take it, but it would still be a hard sell.

The only place it can really be argued is in court, what a hassle.

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Old 08-20-2012, 04:23 PM   #16
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However if a sign simply says 'no trucks' then a motorhome isn't a truck so you are not prohibited. If they want to enforce a law they need to be clear about it.
Not totally true! Here in WA there are no signs saying that heavy vehicles or towing anything have to follow truck speed limits BUT the law is that any vehicle with a GVWR of 10,000#'s or more OR towing ANYTHING must obey truck speed limits.
Just because you don't think it applies doesn't mean it actually doesn't.
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:32 PM   #17
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Not totally true! Here in WA there are no signs saying that heavy vehicles or towing anything have to follow truck speed limits BUT the law is that any vehicle with a GVWR of 10,000#'s or more OR towing ANYTHING must obey truck speed limits.
Just because you don't think it applies doesn't mean it actually doesn't.
Always good to get to know your, and those you travel through, State laws. For instance, the cited El Camino getting a ticket in Chicago. Well, its a car, no? Wrong. In Illinios, its 2 seats and 4 wheels which makes it a 'truck'. Had a minivan cargo that got licenced the same way as it only had 2 seats.

Then, there are 'Class B' roads and their limitations..
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:38 PM   #18
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Another really means "No commecical vehicles" and may be interperted differently by different cops or departments.. Now a commercical vehicle under MICHIGAN rules is one with a commercical license plate.. This can include a taxi cab, a Semi Truck or a pick up.. BUT DOES NOT INCLUDE A MOTOR HOME.
Different states, different laws. In CA a vehicle registered to an LLC IS considered a commercial vehicle. They were makming owners pay commercail fuel tax or have an IFTA Fuel stamp.
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"To determine whether or not a motorhome is a qualified motor vehicle and subject to the tax collected under the International Fuel Tax Agreement, the member jurisdictions will look at how the motorhome is being used,"said Lonette Turner, executive director of IFTA Inc.
"If it is being used in a business endeavor of any kind, it is subject to the fuel use taxes collected under the IFTA, regardless of whether an individual or a company registers the vehicle. Because an LLC is a limited liability company, the term alone indicates that it is a business. This may cause jurisdiction enforcement officers to look more closely at the vehicle."
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:44 PM   #19
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[QUOTE=TheArnolds;1282875]Typically I would not go where there is a "No Trucks" sign because I have no idea why the sign was placed, low overpass, weight limit on some bridge, etc. However my Rand McNally 7710 will display a "No-Truck" warning on the secondary road to my home and there are "No-Truck" signs but I go anyway because I know that 15-20 ton trash trucks, Sears delivery trucks, United Van Lines moving truck, etc. travel these same roads so I assume the sign is intended for commercial thru traffic, not RV's or other trucks that have a business reason to be on these roads.

I am sure that some state or local authorities have a different way of looking at this so I would not argue except if I was going to my own home then we would have a discussion [/QUOTE

Knowing the local area is one thing like you mentioned, if I saw a sign that said "no trucks" that alone would say to me "low overpass" if for no other reason......and for that reason alone I would seek another route. I'm not worried about the weight.....it's pretty tough when you come up to an overpass that you can't go under....hate to lose all those goodies on the roof.

That is why when I am driving down the road, and I see a tractor trailer coming the other way, I am a happy camper.
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:51 PM   #20
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Some roads in California are restricted from being used by motorhomes over 40 feet. Most 40 foot motorhomes are actually over 40 feet when measured. So, would a 40 footer, that measures 40'11" be restricted?
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:53 PM   #21
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A couple of years ago I was in my car on a "no trucks" road in the mountains of VA....I remember being thankful I wasn't in my RV. Lots of hairpin curves on a steep grade. Probably could of made it in the MH, but the DW would have been screaming.

Different state but basically been there, done that, Sign said NO COMMERCIAL vehicles, did not say No trucks. or Cars only.


The hardest part (For me) in navigating those roads is the distracting noise from the shotgun seat. I keep telling her that she is making things worse but she is incapable of listening, or shutting up or not radiating hostility, all of which makes it way harder on me.

I have offered to let her drive if she don't quit, but hey.. That don't work either. (She also scares me when she drives, likes to tailgate).
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The hardest part (For me) in navigating those roads is the distracting noise from the shotgun seat. I keep telling her that she is making things worse but she is incapable of listening, or shutting up or not radiating hostility, all of which makes it way harder on me.

I have offered to let her drive if she don't quit, but hey.. That don't work either. (She also scares me when she drives, likes to tailgate).
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I'll have to check again, but my registration on my MH says, "Passenger Vehicle." Texas registration on trucks says "Truck"
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I'll have to check again, but my registration on my MH says, "Passenger Vehicle." Texas registration on trucks says "Truck"
Most likely. Its that way in a lot of states. Some, however do it as 'RV' others 'Trucks'.. Makes it hard
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Cops make mistakes enforcing those regulations too. Clearly a private motorhome is not a commercial vehicle. But who wants to go to court to make a point and win? Easier to do what the officer says - or to avoid a confrontation in the first place.

I have driven on a "No Trucks" route when there seemed to be no alternative, but if I have an alternative, I'll take it.
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I know that in Chicago, "No Trucks" means just that. Even an El Camino can get a ticket. Happened to a friend of mine on Sheridan Road..
they go by the license plates. A pickup or van with a "B" plate is a truck.
The same pickup or van with an "RV" plate is not a truck.
My RV is not a truck.
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I'm on a Freightliner Chassis with a Cat Engine, both identified on the body of the coach. It's a tough argument with County Mounties that it isn't a truck if he has a quota to meet. So if it says No Trucks and nothing else I find another way. There is a street marked No Trucks on my way home and no other reasonable way to get back here and I take it, but it would still be a hard sell.

The only place it can really be argued is in court, what a hassle.

Dick
Again, a truck is licensed as a truck. Vehicles carrying RV plates are not trucks. Not that I have a problem with those who serve and protect... but they are there to uphold the law, not bring in their next paycheck on the backs of out-a-towners.
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In Illinios, its 2 seats and 4 wheels which makes it a 'truck'. Had a minivan cargo that got licenced the same way as it only had 2 seats.
This must be strange for people who own roadster convertibles to be registered as trucks.

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Cops make mistakes enforcing those regulations too. Clearly a private motorhome is not a commercial vehicle.
I wonder if anyone has gotten caught up in the California law cited above where they view the assets of a corporation (LLC) to be commercial by their very nature. It actually seems to have some logic to it. If a MH is owned by a corporation and is providing tax benefits to that corporation, it seems hard to argue that the coach is a "private motorhome".

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