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Old 01-12-2016, 03:35 PM   #15
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FWIW One of the reasons why I am not interested in a DP is that she refuses to sit over the steps. ;-) Yes, I know there are floor plans with other locations and good reasons to want them. I also see the point of a mid entry.

All current vehicles are built on multi use chassis. DP's are built on Bus chassis so they need the door up front so the driver can collect the fare.
She knows there are slides to cover the steps right? Besides, she can just run out the footrest, problem solved.
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Old 01-12-2016, 03:53 PM   #16
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We would lose slide out space if the door was not up front. Our last A was a gasser and had a mid entry door. I liked it a lot. We did not want the front door on the new DP but did not find any others when looking. We are used to it and glad it is that way now. That space is kind of wasted for anything else.

I cannot imagine any DP without a step cover.
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Old 01-12-2016, 05:20 PM   #17
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There's more to the door placement on a DP. As stated, it will block storage and can interfere with slide placement in most models. It also has to do with the generator. On a DP, the generator is placed in the nose for balance purposes. That gives you an extended nose so that it can sit in front of the front axle. With the generator up front, you have dead space on the passenger side, making it ideal for door and step placement. The driver's side usually has steering gear alongside the generator.

The combination of the above and what others have posted, just makes the placement of the front door the most appropriate.
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FWIW One of the reasons why I am not interested in a DP is that she refuses to sit over the steps. ;-) Yes, I know there are floor plans with other locations and good reasons to want them. I also see the point of a mid entry.

All current vehicles are built on multi use chassis. DP's are built on Bus chassis so they need the door up front so the driver can collect the fare.
Most have a cover for the steps to make it level with the rest of the floor.

I wasn't sure I would like it but I have to say I prefer the front steps versus mid chassis steps.
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Old 01-12-2016, 05:35 PM   #19
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Just my 2 cents. A gas coach has the door behind the right front wheel.
A diesel pusher has the door in front of the wheel.
If you were to put the door in the front of a gasser, you could not put steps going down and out as the tire would be in the way.

Not sure which gasser I saw but the one I really liked was the door right behind the passenger seat.
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On a DP, the generator is placed in the nose for balance purposes.
That's not necessarily true. Our MH has the generator on the driver's side and is well balanced left-to-right.
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Some 2 million dollar Newell coaches have the mid entry door.
Newmar did some years back, in their Flagship......... I like the mid-entry myself.......
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Food manufacturing corporation (FMC) made a gas pusher in the seventies. They had a lot of problems with burned valves and overheating engines. That is why the industry is so hesitant to go with the rear engine.
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Interesting. One thing that bugs me about the DP is the passenger seat is farther back, due to the steps. Also, I'd think a front light truck diesel would work well in place of a gas V8/V10. I have a diesel in my pickup truck..works well.
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Actually, as I recall someone DID make a Gas Pusher

THe reason for putting the door in the very front is to maximize living space. Having the door and step well farther back costs space.
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She knows there are slides to cover the steps right? Besides, she can just run out the footrest, problem solved.
There is logic and there is emotion. Any similarity is purely coincidental.


FWIW there is the same issue with windshields. Some people love the wide open view in the front of the bus and some are terrified.
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There is no replacement for displacement.

A heavy gas pusher would need to be geared down so much to carry the load, that it would only go about 50 mph.

They just don't make big cube gas engine any more. ( I hear a big one is coming out )

Diesels in the front of a Class A would probably be loud, bulky and heavy on the front axle.
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I like the mid entry door! We don't have one now with the DP though. Gary used the space in front of the passenger seat in the gasser to store his gianormous fly fishing bag and other gear when we were camping. The mid entry door was easier to navigate with our boxers and hauling stuff in & out but we didn't have a slide on the passenger side either.

But.. DP or gasser with mid entry? No contest.. DP!
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The reason for putting the door in the very front is to maximize living space. Having the door and step well farther back costs space.

I don't see any space saving with a front bus style door. Wherever you put the door, it will take up 24 to 30 inches and a baggage compartment could be put up front as well. A door could easily fit between 2 slides.
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