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Old 04-28-2014, 06:18 AM   #1
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Purchased a 2003 Winnebago Brave 36M in February. I go up on the roof (fiberglass) to scrub and clean and then sealed it. Climb down, went inside the RV and notice brown flakes on the dash. I take off the inside window trim to find out that it appears that there was a leak around the windows, mainly the passenger side. Previous owners had tried to repair it…with Tile caulk….not too intelligent. Rust had formed on the tile calk. Also some clear silicon was used. I had to use a dremel to remove the Tile calk which was hard as a rock. They used Tile caulk to seal the running light covers as well. Without taking the inside molding off you would not have known. And there was no leak when it rained. I removed the the upper trim from the outside and it just got worse. The frame was rusted as well. Then I noticed a small chip approx 1/4 inch in th center upper passenger window. I took a look good close look at the front running lights which were sealed with clear silicone. There are three in the center and one on each One of the running lights was severely cracked in multiple places and had been sealed with silicone. Again you would not have noticed from the ground unless you got up close. it appears the previous owners may had hit something Hence the chipped windshield and shattered running light. I used OSPHO and tried to mitigate the rust the best I could from both the inside and outside. Which had gotten so bad that it had gone straight thru the Window Frame. I purchased new ` Windshield carrier (holds the molding) and molding for the outside. Unfortunately I think I leaned on the windshield while repairing everything and the crack grew straight down to the center of the passenger window. Also I found a crack on the right corner of the drivers side, again covered up by the Windshield molding. Now I am more screwed than I was. I got as much rust off and resealed the outside upper windows with black butyl rubber compound.

So do I have a leg to stand on with the RV dealership since it was purchased used?
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Old 04-28-2014, 06:25 AM   #2
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Purchased a 2003 Winnebago Brave 36M in February. I go up on the roof (fiberglass) to scrub and clean and then sealed it. Climb down, went inside the RV and notice brown flakes on the dash. I take off the inside window trim to find out that it appears that there was a leak around the windows, mainly the passenger side. Previous owners had tried to repair it…with Tile caulk….not too intelligent. Rust had formed on the tile calk. Also some clear silicon was used. I had to use a dremel to remove the Tile calk which was hard as a rock. They used Tile caulk to seal the running light covers as well. Without taking the inside molding off you would not have known. And there was no leak when it rained. I removed the the upper trim from the outside and it just got worse. The frame was rusted as well. Then I noticed a small chip approx 1/4 inch in th center upper passenger window. I took a look good close look at the front running lights which were sealed with clear silicone. There are three in the center and one on each One of the running lights was severely cracked in multiple places and had been sealed with silicone. Again you would not have noticed from the ground unless you got up close. it appears the previous owners may had hit something Hence the chipped windshield and shattered running light. I used OSPHO and tried to mitigate the rust the best I could from both the inside and outside. Which had gotten so bad that it had gone straight thru the Window Frame. I purchased new ` Windshield carrier (holds the molding) and molding for the outside. Unfortunately I think I leaned on the windshield while repairing everything and the crack grew straight down to the center of the passenger window. Also I found a crack on the right corner of the drivers side, again covered up by the Windshield molding. Now I am more screwed than I was. I got as much rust off and resealed the outside upper windows with black butyl rubber compound.

So do I have a leg to stand on with the RV dealership since it was purchased used?
Rust around the windshield is very common on older Winnie's. There is lots of information on the Winnie Owners Forum on this subject. Good luck with the dealer.
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I would just say damn I should have done a better job of looking before I wrote that check....

...The dealer will just say as is where is enjoy fixing your used motorhome........

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It is an 11 year MH and I am sure it was sold "as is". Check your paper work, in FL they include an "As Is" signed form. However, many states, your insurance will cover the broken windshield. In FL there is not even a deductible.

The windshield frame rust is very common in older Winnebago's. Many were not discovered until the windshield starting leaking only to find the frame behind the windshield was rusted away.
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Thanks guys! Hopefully when they do the windshields they can work on the rust a bit, but I latterly poured it from the outside hoping it would work its ways thru the nooks and crannys around the windshield, catching it with a towel and bucket in the inside. And I did a great job making sure it would not leak.
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