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Old 05-29-2011, 02:21 PM   #1499
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Officials crack down on Wal-Mart camping

By JEFF CUMMINGS, QMI Agency




Customers exit the Wal-Mart on Empress Street in Winnipeg Wednesday January 26, 2011. The retailer will renovate three of their Winnipeg stores into super centres. (BRIAN DONOGH/QMI AGENCY)

St. Albert, Alta., bylaw officers could soon be cracking down on big box stores that allow people to park RVs in their lots to camp overnight.
Mayor Nolan Crouse said council has asked city administration to study whether permits should be issued to businesses that allow overnight parking in their lots.
The mayor said in some situations, he has seen more RVs at the local Wal-Mart than campers at nearby campgrounds.
"That's what we have campgrounds for," said Crouse. "The campgrounds serve a purpose to provide the amenities for those particular campers."
Crouse said the move by some RVers who come to town is unfair to local campgrounds, including one in town that is managed by a local charity, the Kinsmen club.
"Sometimes, they are camping in Wal-Mart, they are having an overnighter and they are sometimes having a party," said Crouse.
Duane Pilson, an avid RVer who organizes RV camping tours in Canada and the U.S., said many campers choose to stay at Wal-Mart parking lots because it's convenient and free.
"A lot of those people will usually go into the store to buy stuff and a lot of them do it, primarily, to save money," said Pilson with Calgary-based Rec-Vee Holiday Adventures.


"(The trend) is not unusual."
Pilson said he has camped at a Wal-Mart twice in his lifetime.
He once had to camp at a Wal-Mart parking lot in Montana to avoid driving in a heavy snowstorm to get back to Alberta after a camping trip in Arizona.
"It was convenient for us because they had a food establishment there and it was convenient for us because we had been driving for most of the day," said Pilson.
"We stayed there more for necessity because of circumstances that were beyond our control."
Crouse said administrators will review what kind of permits should be issued to businesses and whether or not there should be a cap on the length of time vehicles are allowed in the lots.
He said Wal-Mart isn't zoned for overnight camping in St. Albert, according to the city's land-use bylaw.
A report on the issue by administration is expected to council by next spring.
Edmonton Coun. Ed Gibbons said he has had a few complaints from residents about the issue.
However, he has no problem with retail businesses that allow camping in parking lots.
"There isn't enough campgrounds out there for people, so sometimes those campers have no choice," said Gibbons whose ward includes a Wal-Mart.
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Next will be the city, province, county, or state coming up with a way to tax you for parking at Wally World overnight!
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There is the real reason. Somebody who owns a campground is politically connected. Since Wal-Mart is not locally owned they are the bad guy. It does not matter that they employ hundreds more people than the campground.
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Consider the word "camping." It should be "parking." When slides are out, jacks are down, and as stated in the article, people are partying, then that is camping and should not be allowed.
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There is the real reason. Somebody who owns a campground is politically connected. Since Wal-Mart is not locally owned they are the bad guy. It does not matter that they employ hundreds more people than the campground.
I wonder if the city of Winnipeg will also try to pass a law that RVers are not allowed to prepare and eat meals in their RVs, but will instead be legally required to eat in restaurants in Winnipeg....
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I wonder if the city of Winnipeg will also try to pass a law that RVers are not allowed to prepare and eat meals in their RVs, but will instead be legally required to eat in restaurants in Winnipeg....
Don't be to surprised if that happens; i've seen stranger things.
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When I read about these local challenges to WalMart parking I can't help but feel badly for the company. They're really between a rock and a hard place and it's hardly worth their while to launch a legal defense and alienate the local community.

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When I read about these local challenges to WalMart parking I can't help but feel badly for the company. They're really between a rock and a hard place and it's hardly worth their while to launch a legal defense and alienate the local community.
In other communities where these Anti-RV "No Overnight RV Parking" laws have been proposed, Walmart's course of action has been to do nothing. They simply wait until the local ordinance is passed or defeated. If passed, their corporate policy is to abide by the local law. If no ban is passed, it's still up to the store manager to allow or disallow Overnight RV Parking.

As we know from previous discussion here, the majority allow it and some don't.

Those managers who disallow Overnight RV Parking even where it's legal often base their decision on previous abuse by RVers who park without permisison, park in the wrong part of the lot, set up a campsite (instead of just parking), stay more than one night, leave trash in the lot or dump waste tanks in the storm drains.

Or more than one of the above.
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When overnight parking is not allowed most RVers just move on to the next town;
The town loses, the stores lose, the campgrounds that think the RVers will stay with them are only kidding themselves,
from that time on, most RVers simply bypass that town.
Perfect example:
Some states charge out of staters extra to stay in there state parks; most seasoned travelers simply bypass those states (including myself)

Pa. is on of those states; only stayed in one of there state parks one time, even though I have kine folks that live there that I visit.
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