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Old 04-16-2012, 09:55 AM   #3977
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I swear that some of the people that post to this thread are the same nosey neighbors that I have to escape from when I started RVing. If they don't like what Im doing just look out the other window.
I don't use Wal Mart as my destination campground as a rule but some times they are convienient and are the only thing available.
When we visit our daughter and grand children in central Ky. at Christmas, we don't fit in her driveway and there are no rv parks that are near by for us to throw out the anchor, so whenever we are in town the Wal mart Manager is very gracious and lets us stay there for the holidays. We park around back where another six semis were parked for the holidays. Yes, we unhook, level the 5'ver use the generator and (gasp) put the slides out. If we didn't, the bed would remain airborn in our Jayco Eagle and the heater radiators in the floor would be blocked.
We pick up after ourselfs and the dog and even keep the local police supplied with some home cooked food, as they are the security for that Wal Mart.
Of course our "free camping" wound up costing us around $300-$400 by the time you add up Christmas presents and food.
On the day we were getting ready to leave we went in to thank the Manager and we instead met the regional vp. We thanked him too. He said that Wal Mart really appreciates us rv'ers. I mentioned to him some of the phobias that some rv'ers have t parking at Wal Marts, He chuckled at these "rules" and the only thing he said was parking out of the way in the fringe areas of the parking area.
Btw, we just spent 2 nights there for Easter. Wal Marts The Greatest.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:06 PM   #3978
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We've used WM for off and on for the last 12 years without any difficulty or remorse.

Usually when we get there, we're the only ones. But when we wake in the morning, we're usually surrounded with friendly RVers; for the most part. My wife an I kid around about this. It's like the movie "Field of Dreams." "If you build it..." But with us it's "If you park here..."
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Sorry to anyone that I may have offended by my post in this thread.
What I was trying to express, and the way it came off was not excatly the same.
I certainly did not mean to imply that staying at a WM was unpatriotic. I would stay if traveling and just needed a place to pull off and catch some sleep.

What I was trying to say was: I didnt think it was right for people that purposly avoid a CG when one is available and stay at a WM to save a few bucks. However you cant beat convience and if your just stopping for the night and as most WM are along the Hwy it makes sence, and is no different to me than pulling into a rest stop. I would just hate to see someone plan a trip based on WM locations. As I would hate to see CG owners go under because a large corporation like WM allows an option that CG cannot compete with (free)

So if my post was misunderstood I hope this makes it more clear. I certainly did not intend to offend anyone here I really like this site and everyone has been very positive.
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The main reason for stopping at Wal-Mart is convenience and time savings. You can easily save 30 minutes in and 30 minutes out over a campground. In the era of being able easily spend $250 of fuel a day, saving $20 on a camp gound becomes peanuts. Being able to shop and eat by walking and not even having to decouple the toad is a real advantage also. The idea of it just being a way to "save a few buck" is often said by non Wal-Mart folks, but usually misses the mark completely.
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On the other hand, I'm sure that many people do stop at Walmart to save a little money. Not that there's anything wrong with that!! Travel is expensive these days. There are probably as many reasons for stopping as there are people who stop there. I'm just glad that Walmart allows people to stay for whatever reason.

We've only been RVing for a short time and have not overnighted at Walmart...yet.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:29 AM   #3982
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I will stop at Walmart every single time, CG near by or not.. When I shop there, think of the Americans I help keep employed. There are at least dozens counting the store and distribution alone vs the 'owners' of a CG and a few state employees.. ...
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I sometimes stop at a WM for an overnighter. I follow along the East Coast as my brother-in-law does the Intra-coastal waterway in his boat. At many of his stops I can stay at military bases and many of the marinas let us stay in the parking lot but when neither is relatively close to where he is stopping then a WM is just fine. Besides, I don't think I can walk into a WM and come out empty handed. OH, by the way, I ALWAYS call the manager and ask permission first.
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This is true.. I am handicapped from service, have the plate and everything, but you wouldnt know it seeing me for only a few minutes at a time.. One day when i was shopping at Wally World, I came back out to see a note on my windshield saying "Shame on you! This is a handicapped spot and I saw you WALK in! Dont be so lazy!"

Some people just dont get it...
Kind of ther same here except I have MS. I do very well for short distances and you can't tell from looking at me that I have MS.
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Kind of ther same here except I have MS. I do very well for short distances and you can't tell from looking at me that I have MS.
My prayers..
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Guess I've been lucky. I was diagnosed in 1983, some 10 years after the symptoms started. I sometimes think they were wrong but then I think that the University of Oregon Med school, MS dept. would not misdiagnose it.

Thanks for the prayers !!!!
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I would just hate to see someone plan a trip based on WM locations. As I would hate to see CG owners go under because a large corporation like WM allows an option that CG cannot compete with (free)
I was not offended, but I think YOU are WRONG. Just because someone builds a campground, does not mean I have to patronize it. It's my money. I always have a destination when I leave home, and it is a campgound. I love campgrounds. But getting to my destination is probably going to involve a bunch of Wal Marts. I do it to save money. Period. I joke that staying at WM actually costs more money, and argue the convenience etc, but the truth is WM is convenient and free. Did I mention that it is my money? I will decide where to spend it. I don't owe anything to WM or a CG owner. I spend my money where it is in my best interests.
When I drive 20 miles out of my way and pay $40 for 8 hrs sleep I feel like I made a "bad deal". When I pull 2 miles off the HWY, spend the night at WM, and spend $40 (or $100) in the store, I feel like I made a "good deal". It is percieved value. Commonly referred to as WIIFM (Pronounced wif-em, or What's in it for me)
I think the highest I ever paid for a CG was $72/ night in New Orleans. Five blocks from Bourbon St. A bit pricy but worth it. On the way, I planned my trip around two nights in WM. I consider both "deals" as good deals. Both times I asked myself WIIFM. In N.O. the answer was "near the night life" on the road was the answer was "cheap and convenient."

So no, your sanctimonious letter did not offend me, but you are wrong. No campground has ever been put out of business by WM. NONE! NEVER! No business has a "right" to customers. If they can't compete, change business. No one should be in a business where they have to legislate away the competition.
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What is this concept that corporations and profit are bad? This is what made America great and why many of our ancestors came here in the first place. I am all for small business having been one myself, but that does not mean I have to be against big business. Sam Walton is the American dream. He went from 1 store to over 4,000. He was a big camper himself. Wal-Mart is not an evil corporation, they are just a very successful business that caters to Rvers and I for one appreciate it.
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I was not offended, but I think YOU are WRONG. Just because someone builds a campground, does not mean I have to patronize it. It's my money. I always have a destination when I leave home, and it is a campgound. I love campgrounds. But getting to my destination is probably going to involve a bunch of Wal Marts. I do it to save money. Period. I joke that staying at WM actually costs more money, and argue the convenience etc, but the truth is WM is convenient and free. Did I mention that it is my money? I will decide where to spend it. I don't owe anything to WM or a CG owner. I spend my money where it is in my best interests.
When I drive 20 miles out of my way and pay $40 for 8 hrs sleep I feel like I made a "bad deal". When I pull 2 miles off the HWY, spend the night at WM, and spend $40 (or $100) in the store, I feel like I made a "good deal". It is percieved value. Commonly referred to as WIIFM (Pronounced wif-em, or What's in it for me)
I think the highest I ever paid for a CG was $72/ night in New Orleans. Five blocks from Bourbon St. A bit pricy but worth it. On the way, I planned my trip around two nights in WM. I consider both "deals" as good deals. Both times I asked myself WIIFM. In N.O. the answer was "near the night life" on the road was the answer was "cheap and convenient."

So no, your sanctimonious letter did not offend me, but you are wrong. No campground has ever been put out of business by WM. NONE! NEVER! No business has a "right" to customers. If they can't compete, change business. No one should be in a business where they have to legislate away the competition.
+1 Free market capitalism defined. Where there is demand, suppliers will rise up to supply that demand. The best values win, the rest of them fail, as decided by the consumer. Where there is demand, but legislation against suppliers, black markets are created.

To be viable, CGs must either be A) The Destination, or B) On the way to the destination. (Or, of course, A+B)

If they are "A", it does not matter where they are. Campers will come if their amenities and features warrant.

If they are "B", they have to be convienient to the route to "A". CGs that are in the "B" category will have a difficult time competing with WM, Rest Areas, Truck Stops, etc for reasons described above.

Here endeth the 'Professor Obvious' lesson of the day. Carry on.
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