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Old 01-31-2011, 12:42 PM   #1079
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I have got it all figured out. Just drop my bags in Room 105 at Holiday Inn Express, and forgo the depreciation on that high dollar MH that I wanted to buy.

Plus, we save $20 at least on the breakfast bar in the morning. That cuts the room charge quite a bit....
And you have the opportunity of taking home a few new "pets" with you.

Bed bug problem is getting really bad in the hotels. It's really hard to get rid of them once a hotel gets them (I used to work in hotel business and one of my daughters worked for several years at various hotels). They are worse than the roach problem.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:49 PM   #1080
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Lake City Reporter > Archives > News > NO CAMPING

See, they don't enforce RV Camping or Sleeping ! I am also against large campfires at Wally World. I have always had a small tasteful fire myself and feel others should do the same.
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Just a bad sign! A little redundant with the "enforced," and the bottom write up of what they will do.

So how do they know you are sleeping? What if you kept a light on and told them you were just planning your next stop?
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So whose responsibility is it to call the tow? Cannot believe a store manager would buy into this. Some roving LEO? Or, store security who is bored riding around the parking lot?
Go in to pick up groceries and come back and find a tow truck hooked to your rig? I expect the operator and I are gonna have a long, serious conference.
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I expect the operator and I are gonna have a long, serious conference.
Nope.. wouldn't be a long conversation at all
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So whose responsibility is it to call the tow? Cannot believe a store manager would buy into this. Some roving LEO? Or, store security who is bored riding around the parking lot?
Go in to pick up groceries and come back and find a tow truck hooked to your rig? I expect the operator and I are gonna have a long, serious conference.
A very interesting post you are correct.
I (and many others) were involved in getting such signs removed from parking lots in our neck of the woods. All the laws, regulations, responsibilities and enforcement with regard to property boil down to only a few facts.
1 Public owned and Private owned properties
2 Regulations (public and private) and responsibilities to enforce
3 Common sense.
The above sign states it is a city imposed regulation, therefore the City is obligated to pay the costs for the enforcement. For each responsibility delegated to the city police force the city has to up the budget for the extra policing. Parking on a private lot is not a criminal offense,(if you didn't see the sign how would you know) refusing to move when asked by Police is. Responsibility of property law enforcement rests with the city administration and it's By-Law officers (these are not Police, they have no powers of arrest or seizure, and report back to administration who take any punitive action that is required)
On the other hand (sign or no sign) if a property owner asks you to leave his property and you refuse then he can call the police, Then the police will ask you to leave. Refusal will get you charged/arrested and then maybe towed. If there is no one in the vehicle it can be towed. Again common sense if it is a business parking lot during business hours and unless there is a parking time limit who would be bothering you.
While traveling last year I stopped a a WM that had a No RV over-nite parking sign by city by law. I went inside and asked anyway. The store manager informed me that he had to erect the signs as decreed by the by-law, and that the by law also asks the managers to call the police if RV's are contravening said by law. He assured us that he would never do that and if we wished to stay over night it was OK with him. No one bothered us.
Now think about that for a bit. The city made a property law which does not come under the criminal code, therefore the police are not involved. (unless the city pays them to enforce it by asking you to leave. It can only become criminal if you refuse. So the city asks the property owners to act as By-Law officers by calling the police because by-law officers are 9 to 5er's don't laugh it saves money and sometimes works.
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Lake City Reporter > Archives > News > NO CAMPING

See, they don't enforce RV Camping or Sleeping ! I am also against large campfires at Wally World. I have always had a small tasteful fire myself and feel others should do the same.
Just to let you know...The City Of Lake City has removed the "No RV Parking signs from the Wal Mart parking lot. This was in the Sunday Addation of the Lake City Reporter ( www.lakecityreporter.com ) Check it out.
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Just to let you know...The City Of Lake City has removed the "No RV Parking signs from the Wal Mart parking lot. This was in the Sunday Addation of the Lake City Reporter ( www.lakecityreporter.com ) Check it out.
Oh Darn ! Just when this was getting to be fun. Oh well , How about the campfires big or small. Any recommendations.
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That link just takes you to the front page of the newspaper and you have to search for the actual story. The actual story is at the link below and it is a great story. Looks like they were flooded with calls and emails from us and it sure did work. Glad to see a city respond like this. Listening to your customers is a great idea. This would work again if needed.

Lake City Reporter > News > Signs come down:<br />City responds to RV visitors? outcry
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RV'ers from US and Can. writing to the legislators of State and Provincial gov. brought the signs down in Nova Scotia and prevented them from being put up in the State of Maine. A threat to decrease the tourism income is a serious matter to most places who use it as part of their budget, not to mention small business who depend on it to keep solvent. Any threat to that flow of currency is a serious matter. There are places who are wholly independent of the tourist $$ but then again they have little if any tourists.
It's strange how one or many campground owners can think only of themselves and not the other small business close by who lose business.
If a business doesn't want RV's overnighting on their property then that is their right to put up a sign on their property, I don't have a problem with that.
Here's a question for all,
Do you know of any places where municipal No Overnighting By-Laws were NOT spearheaded by campground owners?

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When I was up in Plattsburgh, N.Y. in 2007. I asked why the Rvs were not allowed to overnite park. I was told through the grapevine that a rver had emptied thier holding tank into the city runoff drain. But, What I had remembered was from 1995 was a local campground owner kept complaining to city officials that they were losing business, in 2007 such cg owner bought out. I asked in 2007 if campgrounds were getting more business from overnighters and the poll was no. The campers had just changed there routing to other towns where shopping centers would allow them to overnight.
Then I read the local paper and listen to the news and the officials whine cause they are losing revenue, and many young graduates are leaving for jobs elsewhere. in 2007 the unemployment rate was in the double digit range according to the local chamber of commerce. Irover
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What I find more objectionable than the no RV parking thing is the cities, counties and states that advocate hosing the tourists coming into their area a bed or meal tax which is usually an extra 2 or 3% tax that the local chamber of commerce or council use to promote their area to more tourists. When I travel into an area such as these I make damn sue to either motor right on through or stay at a fee site such as Walmart. I try my damnedest to not go anywhere near such places or if forced through by routing to not spend a dime. Tantamount to highway robbery.
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Not interested in reading all these posts......but...Almost every time we have a Wally resort stay we spend at least one to two hundred $$$$$ NOTHING IS FREE
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I'll spend money at Walmart while parked overnight. I am fully benefiting from the spending and not paying a tax to the city for their needs. I feel good to not support their city with a CG tax.
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