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01-19-2012, 11:11 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 304
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So who defines what a customer is????
Like Dunner said, I am a Mc Donald's customer. Been there done that, keep a McDonald's cup in my car for free refills. Same for Burger King. If a restaurant provides wi-fi, it is a servce they provide for their customers. Like napkins. How many napkins is Ok and how many is stealing? If I leave the restaurant but go back for more napkins, is that stealing but it would been Ok if I had taken more the first time?
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2004 Winnebago Journey
2012 Explorer Toad
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01-19-2012, 11:50 AM
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#3558
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Long Island N.Y.
Posts: 357
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
Whose rules? Not Wal*Marts as we all know they want us there.
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Mr.D
See below - taken from Walmart Corporate web site FAQ's - that would be the rules I was referring to. Walmart leaves it up to the individual store managers.
Walmartstores.com: Most Frequently Asked Questions
Q : Can I park my RV at a Walmart store? [Back to top]
A: While we do not offer electrical service or accommodations typically necessary for RV customers, Walmart values RV travelers and considers them among our best customers. Consequently, we do permit RV parking on our store lots as we are able. Permission to park is extended by individual store managers, based on availability of parking space and local laws. Please contact management in each store to ensure accommodations before parking your RV.
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2003 Bounder 35R
3 Jack Russell's
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01-19-2012, 12:16 PM
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#3559
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 254
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BOEING GUY It has never been said better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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01-19-2012, 12:44 PM
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#3560
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Phx, Arid~zona
Posts: 11,106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zip0
Walmart leaves it up to the individual store managers.
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And the Corporate Greedy RV parks that badger municipal gov'ts into passing ordinances that prevent RV'er from overnight parking.
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01-19-2012, 12:52 PM
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#3561
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 6,401
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunner
And the Corporate Greedy RV parks that badger municipal gov'ts into passing ordinances that prevent RV'er from overnight parking.
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There are no RV Parks in the town I live in yet the City Council passed a no overnight parking ordinance a few years ago. Did a Corporate Greedy RV Park in another nearby town get the City Council to pass the ordinance?, no the Public Safety Department requested the ordinance.
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08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis......It's really weird being the same age as old people. I thought getting old would take much longer.
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01-19-2012, 12:58 PM
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Registered User
Vintage RV Owners Club Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,951
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
Sorry you are plain wrong, it is theft of services as the WiFi is provided for CUSTOMERS. If you aren't a customer then your stealing bandwidth. Just as though you ate at a restaurant and left without paying. That's the law.
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No...
McDonalds is truly free...
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"Free" means what it says and no purchase is required, McDonald's told the Dallas Morning News .
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McDonald's to Offer Free Wi-Fi Internet Access | PCWorld Business Center
You are assuming that ALL provided wifi is for 'customers only', which is not true. Several places provide 'true free' wi-fi to the public for public use, no strings attached. McDonalds is one..
However, if you use the wifi against the company's 'Terms of Service', ie: 'For paying customers only' or 'No downloading software', then yes, you can be in violation and if asked to stop and dont, can be in trouble.
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01-19-2012, 01:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Phx, Arid~zona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UFO Pilot
There are no RV Parks in the town I live in yet the City Council passed a no overnight parking ordinance a few years ago. Did a Corporate Greedy RV Park in another nearby town get the City Council to pass the ordinance?, no the Public Safety Department requested the ordinance.
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So, violators generate revenue for the PSD.
Phoenix has a speed limit of 45 MPH. When the same street changes to Glendale, the speed limit drops to 35 MPH in the name of safety. Glendale even said they would start ticketing for 1 MPH over any speed limit in their city. Now, that's greed.
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01-19-2012, 01:13 PM
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#3564
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 6,401
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08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis......It's really weird being the same age as old people. I thought getting old would take much longer.
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01-19-2012, 01:15 PM
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#3565
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Phx, Arid~zona
Posts: 11,106
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Me thinks it is extended till when she throws the cup away.
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01-19-2012, 01:17 PM
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#3566
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Long Island N.Y.
Posts: 357
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UFO Pilot
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Easy go into Starbucks sit down and start using the WiFi, If they say its only for customers say I am one I bought a crapochino last week. See what they say.
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01-19-2012, 01:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Phx, Arid~zona
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And show it in writing that they have to be current customers.
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01-19-2012, 01:42 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 6,401
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunner
So, violators generate revenue for the PSD.
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WalMart allows RV'ers to park overnight. No one has ever been cited or fined for overnight parking as far as I know. There are 2 or 3 RV's there almost everynight.
The Public Safety Department requested the ordinance so they could move the "undesireables" out if needed. Without the ordinance they couldn't prevent people from moving in and living in the Parking lots, at least that is the way it was explained to me. It may not be a perfect solution but it seems to work.
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08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis......It's really weird being the same age as old people. I thought getting old would take much longer.
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01-19-2012, 02:48 PM
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#3569
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Phx, Arid~zona
Posts: 11,106
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I wasn't talking about your WM specifically.
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01-19-2012, 03:19 PM
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#3570
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: In a lawnchair
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I just got back from Walmart. Only one 43' DP in the whole parking lot. Must be a slow travel day.
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