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Old 12-02-2014, 08:49 PM   #29
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Scared me, i thought you were actually robbed. This sounds like a burglary. Robbery = "the felonious taking of the property of another from his or her person or in his or her immediate presence, against his or her will, by violence or intimidation."
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:08 PM   #30
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Since I live in a 42' 6 months of year I have alarm system that has a small cell connection to alarm company runs on 110 volt and connects to alarm panel in the house. Guy that put it in said you want it set up to move to the coach for the other 6 months, you will need 110 volt while stored. I paid for small panel for the coach pull one connector move cell unit and now the one I do not sleep in has remote monitored alarm and the one I sleep in has local alarm and armed security guard inside. Oh I am off duty
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:59 PM   #31
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Come on now, we can not expect our police forces to take time out from the coffee shops and from pinching innocent people for doing 5 mph over the speed limit to prevent a bunch of hoodlums terrorizing us.
What ever happened to "To serve and protect"
You really think this ; how naive. You need to do a ride along with some police , you will be shocked right out of your clueless panties. The police are incredibly abused and underpaid. In many states they start at minimum wage ; yes thats right , research it.
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Old 12-03-2014, 07:18 AM   #32
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Come on now, we can not expect our police forces to take time out from the coffee shops and from pinching innocent people for doing 5 mph over the speed limit to prevent a bunch of hoodlums terrorizing us.
What ever happened to "To serve and protect"
If this was posted thinking you were going to get a lot of folks agreeing: Isn't going to happen.
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Old 12-03-2014, 07:28 AM   #33
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If this was posted thinking you were going to get a lot of folks agreeing: Isn't going to happen.

Agree.
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Old 12-03-2014, 07:34 AM   #34
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Our motorhome was also broke into a couple weeks ago. They broke the roof vents and took the 2 TV's. I feel your pain!!!
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Old 12-03-2014, 06:37 PM   #35
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Come on now, we can not expect our police forces to take time out from the coffee shops and from pinching innocent people for doing 5 mph over the speed limit to prevent a bunch of hoodlums terrorizing us.
What ever happened to "To serve and protect"
Having worked my entire career at one Police Department and rising to the level of Captain ( in a fairly big/ busy resort area City) and working just about everything enforcement related detail that you can think of, you my friend are way off base and out of line. I really feel bad for you (not really) if you really believe what you posted.

If you really knew what the Police today have to deal with, you would know that they live to catch somebody in the act of comitting a crime and victimizing people such as this and would drop anything to respond to it. If all they were doing is what you think crime would be even more out of control than it is. Alot of Cops today are also RV'ers with their families, and I would bet they patrol check wherever your Rv is more than you think.

Even the motorcop(who usually doesn't write a ticket unless you are 10 over the speed limit and it's dangerous) would give up a speeder to respond to a crime in progress. I had one idiot complain to me one day that one of my Officers was constantly patrolling his neighborhood (this was after a string of burglaries in an adjacent City) and "didn't he have anything better to do". I asked the complainer if his house/car/MH had been burged or victimized lately and he said "No, I just don't like cops they scare my kids" (so you see they just can't win sometimes). I told him maybe he should thank the Officer for his safe neighborhood and teach his kids that Police are good and you can go to them for help if you are ever in trouble and your parents/ neighbors aren't around. He had what we call a paradigm shift, that's when you realize things are not always as you think and maybe there's a different story behind the actions.

If you were to go on a ride along you would most likely have that paradigm shift. If you really think cops are worthless I guess you could always call the "hoodlum" you refered to for help and see how that goes...Just my 2 cents
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:23 PM   #36
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We have a RV storage business and we've spent time and money to install security systems, cameras, lights to make it as safe as possible. Our systems notifies the police department right a way and they respond quickly. We haven't had any break-ins in five years, but sometimes critters set off the system. Fences just keep out honest people. It's a terrible sight to see your RV has been burglarized.
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:37 PM   #37
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Double keyed deadbolts are not legal per Fire Code requirements in many locales. (retired fire marshal here)

Guess what kind of dead bolts I use?

But even double keyed dead bolts won't keep the thieves out. Dammit!

If we parked something in a storage lot, I'd look for spot that was securely fenced (read - concertina wire, monitored security cams, maybe even guard dogs!). Just too many crooks on the street and best you can do is make it less easy to be a target.
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Scared me, i thought you were actually robbed. This sounds like a burglary. Robbery = "the felonious taking of the property of another from his or her person or in his or her immediate presence, against his or her will, by violence or intimidation."
I sort of think many of us new the distinction; but lay personnel often mix the two term in common conversation. The point of the thread is that these people felt personally violated. Their safe space has been entered and their future comfort, at least for the time being has been greatly diminished. Perhaps sadly, the law as it is written, distinguishes between burglary and robbery. Considering the damage done to personal property and peace of mind perhaps the penalties should be the same. Even sadder, if the perpetrators had injured themselves while breaking in damaging, and stealing the personal belonging they might bring suit against the owners. This is common in England. There are even articles in the British press of owners who are prosecuted for injuring a burglar who is caught in the shed when the attempt to detain the criminal for the police.
My heart goes out to people who have been affected by burglaries.
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The problem with RV walls is that they are thin, therefore the locks are not strong. Most of the deadbolts are not very long and again strong (have a look at yours).....The locks give you a bit of a sense of security. The locks are designed to keep honest folks out and make it only a little bit harder for crooks. Any pry bar applied to most RV locks will result in easy access. Any unoccupied rig is a target. Where we park and store it can make a difference, but it can almost feel like playing the odds, especially when its stored at a storage facility which isn't checked or the property monitored. Might help to put temporary signs on the door which indicate that all valuables/TVs have been removed while in storage. I spoke to our RV dealer and ask how they kept ahead of toads getting into their RVs and stealing TV's. He told me that there are no TVs in the rigs on the lot and the rigs are left unlocked.......all the time. He said that from time to time someone does get into the rigs, but leave and seldom do damage. Goes against everything we learn growing up, but maybe remove the eye candy from the rig and leave the rig unlocked. Go look around the rig and steal nothing or take my toilet paper. Just an idea
His rig is "eye candy". That's why they broke into his first.

I do hope the catch the ones responsible but most of all, I hope you insurance doesn't rob you again.
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Old 12-04-2014, 04:46 PM   #40
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All,

Thanks again for the excellent conversation. In hindsight I should have titled the thread, "We were burgled - literally."

Folks have talked about storage - we had just moved to this lot on October 1. We moved because it featured a level concrete lot, 8 foot perimeter fencing with razor wire on top. Good lighting, good camera coverage, and motion detection.

The thieves came prepared - they cut through the chain-link fence. The motion detectors picked them up and the lot staff responded pretty quickly, just not quickly enough. Our Axis and a DP unit were hit. It's interesting that they bypassed two big 5'ers to get to both the motorhomes.

The responding police officer was quite helpful, and would much preferred to have been able to catch the thieves in the act. I have no complaints there.

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