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Old 07-10-2015, 08:06 PM   #1
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What determines height without air bags

I'm still having problems with my height with the air bags deflated. The steps get within a 1/2 inch from the ground. This has caused me problems with the steps hitting the ground and damage to the steps. I am trying to figure out if the coach sit on stops or the deflated air bags. If it sits on the air bags how do I adjust the height to stay up some so the motorhome will not get too low in the front.
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I don't think there is any such adjustment. If you leveling system automatically dumps the suspension air, it dumps ALL of it. Non-automatic systems don't, so you could use the manual controls to dump only a portion of the suspension air.

I'm not sure how your Roadmaster chassis is designed, but typically the chassis sits on rubber stops when the air bags totally deflate. But its academic - with all the air released, it sits on either the bags themselves or the stops, or both simultaneously.

0.5" seems unusually low, even with air dumped. Mine (different chassis and leveling system) stays maybe 3" minimum above ground.
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followup height

Thanks Gary, I have a manual leveling system but I don't understand you saying I could control the air? My MH the leveling system is 3 jacks one in the front and two in the rear hyd. Now the air bags are separate and run off air pressure.
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Bruce,


You and I have the same coach and I've never noticed my steps getting that close to the ground. They will come within a few of inches if I let out all the air. Since we have a manual system I normally don't let out all the air unless we're on a very un-level spot. I'm not sure why your steps would get that close to the ground.


Hope someone has an answer for you I sure don't.
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First, airbags have a cone shaped rubber stop built inside them, so when deflated the weight of the coach would be sitting on that cone/stop. As mentioned, not adjustable. I suppose there is a (remote?) chance that your front bags may have been replaced at some point, with ones that might allow the coach to sit lower at rest.

Are you saying that when you deflate your bags, that the step is within 1/2" of the ground - while on a level surface? Or is this just one place that you frequent? Is there a chance these steps have been replaced at some point, or an extension bracket they mount to installed/changed?

Worst case, maybe you could turn the steps off, to prevent their extending, when the bags are deflated?
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Thanks for your info. I am pretty sure everything is orginal. I have looked at others 2005 Diplomats on line and see some sitting low in the front steps close to the ground. Do you know how to keep air in the air bags when you shut down, they are automatic and deflating the air bags.
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If you don't let them down on arrival (or defeat the switch that's doing that automatically), they're going to let themselves down eventually. How quickly that happens varies. Could be a matter of hours, or possibly days. They're all different/the sum of their parts - with dozens of potential places to leak (or not!).
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