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Old 03-23-2010, 11:06 PM   #1
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What Is Level?

What surface in your motor home do you consider the reference plane for leveling purposes?

The floor? A refrigerator shelf?

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Old 03-23-2010, 11:24 PM   #2
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Good question.

I've found that the little bubble that Monaco installed beside the driver's seat is useless. I use a tiny bubble level, set it on the front drawer box. When the jacks are finally down, the bubble showing things are basically level, I walk back to the kitchen, and use the same level to check the kitchen countertop beside the fridge. Sometimes I may tweak the jacks a little, but usually I decide that it's close enough.

I finally decided that if the bubble is anywhere near the center, it's close enough. Don't know if that's right or wrong. I'm told the only reason for good level is for the fridge. I'm not sure exactly how level the fridge must be. But what I've been doing has been working so far.

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Old 03-24-2010, 12:17 AM   #3
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I always use the floor as a reference.
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Old 03-24-2010, 03:55 AM   #4
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I use the floor also.
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Old 03-24-2010, 06:33 AM   #5
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While the fridge is forgiving of small discrepancies, it must be level to operate properly. I seem to remember something about using the bottom of the freezer as a reference for leveling an RV.

Obviously, it isn't practical to put a level in the freezer when it is packed with food, so when we first got our motorhome, I leveled as accurately as I could using the freezer as a reference. Then I checked several other spots that were easier to reach. Tiffin must have done a good job building our motorhome because when the freezer is level, so are the kitchen counter top and the floor.

As a bonus, when the freezer is level, so is the little shelf in the cockpit where the cup holders are located. Although our leveling jacks have lights to indicate when the motorhome is level, I have found them to be inaccurate. I carry a 6" torpedo level in the drawer below the cup holders, and I can use it to check the level of the coach right from the driver's seat. Sometimes I'll even move the motorhome around on the site to find the spot that is most level even before I extend the jacks.
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Old 03-24-2010, 06:48 AM   #6
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I use the bath room and bed room doors. It drives me crazy when they open or close by them selves. They are at right angles to each other so I get front to back and left to right indicators. I also tend to run the drivers side down slightly to make the water run away from the wall seals of the slides. And a little low in the back to make the AC condensation run away from the front door area. As to the fridge with this method I am probably within a few degrees of perfectly level and have never had a problem.
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Both Dometic and Norcold specify level as 3 degrees side-to-side and 6 degrees front-to-back for all their models made in the last 10-15 years (older models are more sensitive). That is refrigerator side and front, which is almost always the opposite of trailer side and front. It is probably wise to stick to half or less of the maximum allowable angle.

A 3 degree angle is about 0.6 in/foot, so a 30 foot long RV could be up to 18" high or low at either end. You would be really uncomfortable if you tried to walk around at that angle!
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My wife. If she does NOT feel the coach is level, there is no scientifically calibrated instrument in the world that is going to convince her otherwise!
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:38 AM   #9
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Leveling is not really difficult at all, and not really that important.

If it FEELS level while walking around in it, then it is level.

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Since I have a "side entry," and the leveling controls are right there at the steps, I use a level on the floor at the top of the steps. As pointed out, as you are looking at the refrigerator, 3 degrees side to side, and 6 degrees front to back is necessary to keep from damaging the refrigerator. And, as stated, if you are comfortable walking, you are near level enough.

On my Kwikee levelers, once leveled I can push a combination of buttons and calibrate the leveling system. Then I can just push the "Auto" button.
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Since I have a "side entry," and the leveling controls are right there at the steps, I use a level on the floor at the top of the steps. As pointed out, as you are looking at the refrigerator, 3 degrees side to side, and 6 degrees front to back is necessary to keep from damaging the refrigerator. And, as stated, if you are comfortable walking, you are near level enough.

On my Kwikee levelers, once leveled I can push a combination of buttons and calibrate the leveling system. Then I can just push the "Auto" button.
I use the same exact procedure. I have only had to recalibrate the levelers 2 times in 2 1/2 years.
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You check level on the floor of the freezer. The bulls eye bubble should be no more than 1/2 the bubble width outside of the center ring. Otherwise as they say "you can't fool mother nature" The piper will eventually be paid !!
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I use the DW, and she uses the shower & throne room doors. If those two doors don't move, she is happy. When she is happy, there is peace in the kingdom (or maybe that should be Queendom??)
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I've found that what's "level" in the front and mid coach area is not level in the bedroom/bathroom at the rear. Makes sense since the rig is nearly 42 feet long. And since the bathroom and wardrobe doors were always swinging open when the bus was "level", I adjusted the calibration to have the rear level enough to avoid door movement and this tweak made no visible difference in the front. So I guess you could say this "new level" is our "new normal"
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