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Old 07-10-2016, 06:50 PM   #15
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Toilet paper selection is not your issue. I have always used the Kirkland or Costco brands for our use.

I would bet that you have some tank installation construction debris caught inside the lines going to the black tank flush valve.

I would have the tank scoped with a camera to see exactly what is happening and then correct it.

You may have to get a professional septic system person who has the proper equipment for diagnoses and correction.

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Also, have you instructed everyone who uses the toilet NOT to put anything down except toilet paper? No wipes of any kind and absolutely no feminine products.

Don't waste your money on expensive RV toilet paper or chemicals. Just use LOTS of water when flushing solids and fill the tank before dumping.

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Old 07-11-2016, 05:22 AM   #16
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Have always used Charmin and made sure tank was almost full before dumping. Have never had any problems.

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Old 07-11-2016, 05:29 AM   #17
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I too believe you have some tank installation construction debris not a tissue issue. Mine was stopped, when disconnecting pipes found a 24" tape measure blocking the pipe
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Old 07-11-2016, 05:34 AM   #18
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We never put paper in the crapper

We minimize clogging issues in our 2016 Bounder by never flushing paper products down the Vacuum flush toilets. Wet wipes are placed in plastic bags Wal-Mart gives you, tied in a knot and disposed of.
Sometimes less is more....
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Old 07-11-2016, 05:38 AM   #19
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this is our first year with a new Outdoors RV - Creekside. When draining the black water tank it frequently gets clogged and i cant drain the whole tank. we use a septic safe tp recommended by our dealer. are there any other suggestions? Thanks
TP is not the Issue "Use more Water" Dump when Full.

Use any TP you want but Use More WATER,


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Old 07-11-2016, 06:21 AM   #20
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this is our first year with a new Outdoors RV - Creekside. When draining the black water tank it frequently gets clogged and i cant drain the whole tank. we use a septic safe tp recommended by our dealer. are there any other suggestions? Thanks
Frankly I would take the trailer back to the dealer for inspection and repair.
It should be under warranty if it was new.
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I have seen this problem in the past, when they drill holes in the tank to install a fitting, the piece that was drill out falls in the tank and lodged at the bottom of the tank causing a blockage, the problem is getting it out.
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The right kind of TP was certainly a foremost thought as I took delivery of my new Unity in 2014. I had decided not to get the macerator because it seemed like a gadget that could fail, but gravity never lets you down. I did a lot of research on how to maintain the black tank, dump the black tank and what kind of TP to use. At the time I did the tissue breakdown test on several toilet papers. I didn't want to use that expensive RV TP. Two years ago I tested Scott single ply paper, Scott Tissue 1000 Sheets Unscented Bathroom Tissue, 1000 sheets, 20 rolls - Walmart.com, which broke down better than Charmin Ultra Strong, Charmin Basic, and Quilted Northern.

For my recent 2016 TP Test, I compared the Scott Tissue that won in 2014 from above, Charmin Ultra Strong, Charmin Ultra Strong Toilet Paper Mega Rolls, 308 sheets, 18 rolls - Walmart.com, and Cottonelle Ultra Comfort Care, ranked #1 in this review The Best Toilet Paper | The Sweethome.

For the Test; Take a clear glass/plastic bottle/jar (I use a Glade clear plastic container with a sealed lid like you use to store leftovers in).

Fill the container half way with water and drop in one sheet of your favorite bath/toilet tissue.

Place the lid on the container tightly and give it one or two good shakes. Set it on the counter and go about your business.

Come back once an hour to observe how long it takes the tissue to breakup into pieces. Remember to give the container a little shake ever hour (this will duplicate the flush water of your toilet). I usually flush and empty my waste tank everyday when at a full hookup site, so doing the test over several hours would seem reasonable, however in less than 2 hours it was obvious that breakdown was occurring in the Scotts and Cottonelle TP.

My conclusion is that the Scotts single ply is the best, breaking down the fastest and most completely. However, the Cottonelle 2 ply also broke down acceptably in 2 hours. The Charmin didn't break down in 24 hours. I am glad to have found another TP that I can use in the RV. Once I use up all my Scotts I am switching to Cottonelle, it is a more comfortable TP.

I'd be interested in hearing what TP others have chosen to use in their RV.

P.S. Just as another check for smooth flowing waste water, I use a "clear plastic" black water 45 degree elbow connection, https://www.amazon.com/Camco-39847-R...sewer+fittings, in-line with my sewer hose which gives a birds eye view of the water/waste exiting the BW tank. At the rate of speed the water/waste is traveling its really hard to even see any evidence of TP at all, so there are no worries of a TP clog.
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:37 PM   #23
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For giggles and because I had just spent 3 days working on my homeís waste water plumbing system, I did the toilet paper break down test on three different brands. All were listed as septic tank safe.

Charmin, FAILED.

Scott, PASSED.

Targetís Up & Up, PASSED
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If anyone must empty their black tank more often than the slowest dissolving tissue, they must have a problem.
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A-h-h-h-h the Great TP debate.
We use a single ply TP, currently Scott's but have used specialty papers as well. Our 5er has had a slow drain problem since new. I've scoped it, have done a sprayer nozzle down the toilet hole and up the drain pipe and down the vent, filled it until the water was toilet high and it still ran slow. To make things worse, the @#$% monitor usually showed it as full. This past Monday I took the belly cover corner down and pulled the old senders out and installed the Horst (now Valterra) Miracle Probes. Just because I had access, decided to pull the valve out. Again, no debris found but the aft side of the valve may have had part of the rubber seal encroaching on the drain. It never leaked but there is no pressure on that side until I pull the drain handle. That tank now gushes to empty with a full drain pipe. Now, did I find the problem? Not a clue as the tank was cleaned of solids but it is encouraging and something for the OP to consider. It isn't a project for someone with a weak stomach though
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I like the white stuff that comes on a roll.
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Amazon has the Scott brand at a great case price
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I like the white stuff that comes on a roll.

Sure beats corn cobs! That's a southern joke. You yankees wouldn't understand!
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Scott 1000. Commented on their web sit ok for RV.
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