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Old 08-14-2006, 03:08 PM   #1
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My folks just stayed at a local camp ground and were instructed by the pump out boy to just let their grey water run on the ground. He states that's what every one else does! I plan on verifying this and if true filing a complaint with the town. Am I out of line? What would you do? Just a note this used to be a KOA but lost the franchise (can't amagine why!) This camp ground boarders a state forest and the run off will end up in the largest natual lake in MA. Scotty.
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Old 08-14-2006, 03:08 PM   #2
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My folks just stayed at a local camp ground and were instructed by the pump out boy to just let their grey water run on the ground. He states that's what every one else does! I plan on verifying this and if true filing a complaint with the town. Am I out of line? What would you do? Just a note this used to be a KOA but lost the franchise (can't amagine why!) This camp ground boarders a state forest and the run off will end up in the largest natual lake in MA. Scotty.
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Old 08-14-2006, 04:44 PM   #3
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Fxrscotty,
You are not out of line to check the ordinances with the town to find out if the practice of dumping gray water on the ground is permitted. There are many places (cities & states) that allow the practice. California state parks used to allow it many, many years ago, but quit the practice back in the 80's (I think).

After you determine what is legally allowed in your area, then you will know what step you should take next. Certainly if it is not legal you must report the pumper for suggesting it is OK to dump gray water.
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Old 08-14-2006, 04:55 PM   #4
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I think you'll get laughed at. Just how far can 20 gallons of gray water travel, and why would it decide to make a cross country trek heading to a lake?

Just about every square inch of the US is dry and hot, so dumping grey water right now in most places will actually help things.
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:51 PM   #5
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I may be over acting charlie but this is a 100 plus site park with 80 or so full time/seasonal sites that sit on a rock ledge hill over looking the lake so its a little more than 20 gals and they just got to flow down hill. The lake has seen an increase in weeds the last few years coincidense? The town also has been without a health inspecter last couple of years. I bow hunt in the area around the park so I'll check it out before I start raising ****. What about the rest of you? Am I out of line? Let the flaming begin. Scotty.
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Old 08-14-2006, 11:24 PM   #6
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I don't think you are out of line at all. I can see dumping fresh water on the ground but not gray water tanks. Consider this, my fiver has two 40 gallon gray tanks. Both fill up with soapy water. Soap does not absorb into the ground. It tends to build up over time as a sludge. It sucks to walk over it and if it drains into the lake as you say, then hundreds of gallons of the stuf drains into the lake on a wekly basis. Soap scum floats on the water creating a film which eventually damages the eco system, screws up the fishing etc. Doesn't look good on the ground either. That is what dump stations are for.
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My grey water coming out of the tank doesn't smell that nice.A hundred tanks dumping at the same time must be a little unplesant.A health inspector once told me after water coming out of a septic tank flows thru a twenty foot gravel bed it is clean enough to drink.I told him he could have my glass.

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You are not out of line, report it. Grey water is dirty water with all the soap and other things in it.
Would one want to drink the water from their shower? I think not, so why would they want to dump it on the ground to flow into a lake. Plus the smell.
If I dumped my tank full of grey water, that would be 75 gallons of waste which would flow all over including the next site for someone to step in.

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I can't count the number of times I have stayed in campgrounds over the years, including state/national parks that encourage dumping your grey water on the ground. One that comes to mind right away is within about 20 feet of the Snake River in Idaho. Soap is recommended by the "green" folks as an alternative to bug spray for spraying your bushes and plants. The water is filtered very quickly as it enters the ground. As the above comment about septic systems notes, that water cleans in a short time and gray is almost clean already. You might want to check a few of the state parks around MA, Winchendon comes to mind right away about how they feel about grey water. They are almost touching the water and it doesn't seem to hurt anything.
All the comments about how it must smell? Ask your folks if the park smelled bad. I know the park and I don't think it has an odor!
By the way, KOA did not pull the franchise, the owners wanted to keep the weekly 10% for themselves and withdrew from the franchise.
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Go ahead and report it. You don't need to predetermine if they are violating local laws or not. If they are not violating local codes, nothing bad will happen. If they are, they will get dinged and you have done the right thing.
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Old 08-15-2006, 12:07 PM   #11
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Bubba, the few times I have been in the park I haven't notice any smell and the folks that run the place seem very nice. I just question this practice as I haven't seen it practiced/encouraged anyplace I've camped. I must admit I have in the past done so myself on ocassion. I will investigate the state/town regs before I do anything. As far as the KOA franchise I stand corrected. Scotty.
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