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Old 03-23-2015, 03:26 PM   #1
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When is a 2015 a 2015??

A nearby dealer has offered us a barely used "2015" Itasca Sunstar with 1,069 miles, purchased new in August 2014 and traded in this month on a newer model.

The VIN says its a 2014, built in March of 2014.

I am confused. I mean, it's like new. But can I call it a 2015 when *I* go to sell it in 5 years?
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Ahhhh....dealer speak!
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It could be a chassis that they had that was a 2014. They built the 2015 model on a 2014 chassis. What does the title say.
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The year is determined by the final manufacturer. Check the serial number on the Winnebago tag.
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FWIW my understanding is that one goes by the title not the VIN as factories get chassis in large quantities then build as needed so the year of the house is often newer than the year of the chassis. All I am sure of is out 2012 has a 2011 manual from Ford in the glove box. ;-)
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FWIW my understanding is that one goes by the title not the VIN as factories get chassis in large quantities then build as needed so the year of the house is often newer than the year of the chassis. All I am sure of is out 2012 has a 2011 manual from Ford in the glove box. ;-)

This right here is exactly correct. A lot of times the Ford chassis might be a 2014 because of when they purchased the chassis, but the Winnebago home built on the chassis is a 15.

The year of your Motor home is determined by the Winnebago home. Not the Ford chassis it sits on. And you will also be able to sell it in the future as a 15

Also, unlike cars when they switch to a new model year in August, RVs typically start the model year change around the May range. So you'll see 2016's rolling onto dealers lots shortly.

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Thanks everyone.

I have not seen the title yet. Will do a final test drive later this week to make sure everything works. If all is well, we'll take it.

The MSRP was $88,650. We're paying $59, 250.

Looking at financing with Essex Credit through Costco.
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Nothing is as confusing as year models of motorhomes. My 1998 Pace Arrow is titled as a 1999. Georgia refuses to call it a 1998 because the chassis is a 1999. They say they can only go by the VIN # and it is a 1999 VIN #. Believe it or not Ford went from a 1997 chassis to a 1999 chassis. There was no 1998 chassis. So my 1998 is a 1999 on the tag. I call myself a christian so when I sell it I will have to make sure the buyer understands it is a 1998. Do not take anyones word for it other than Winnebago. The year will make a difference in price if you sell it in a couple of years. If you plan to keep it for ten years or more the price difference will be much less.
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Nothing is as confusing as year models of motorhomes. My 1998 Pace Arrow is titled as a 1999. Georgia refuses to call it a 1998 because the chassis is a 1999. They say they can only go by the VIN # and it is a 1999 VIN #. Believe it or not Ford went from a 1997 chassis to a 1999 chassis. There was no 1998 chassis. So my 1998 is a 1999 on the tag. I call myself a christian so when I sell it I will have to make sure the buyer understands it is a 1998. Do not take anyones word for it other than Winnebago. The year will make a difference in price if you sell it in a couple of years. If you plan to keep it for ten years or more the price difference will be much less.
Under Federal law Georgia is WRONG! It must be titled as per the year of the completed vehicle the manufacturer say it is, not the chassis VIN! RVIA used to have info on their web site about it but I don't see it now.
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Nothing is as confusing as year models of motorhomes. My 1998 Pace Arrow is titled as a 1999. Georgia refuses to call it a 1998 because the chassis is a 1999. They say they can only go by the VIN # and it is a 1999 VIN #. Believe it or not Ford went from a 1997 chassis to a 1999 chassis. There was no 1998 chassis. So my 1998 is a 1999 on the tag. I call myself a christian so when I sell it I will have to make sure the buyer understands it is a 1998. Do not take anyones word for it other than Winnebago. The year will make a difference in price if you sell it in a couple of years. If you plan to keep it for ten years or more the price difference will be much less.

Same in California. Our chassis is a 2006, but it was built in 2007. Cal DMV lists it as a 2006.


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Our coach is titled by the chassis (Spartan) not the MH (TS) ??? interesting
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Agree that you have to go by the title. The VIN number on the Ford chassis of my Winnebago Minnie indicates "2001", while the Winn info plate indicates it was produced in 2002, and the title states "2002". This caused some problem with my insurance company until I could make them believe me. Of course, they also originally listed it as a travel trailer, but I think (hope) we have it all straightened out now.
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There is two numbers to a motorhome, vin number and the manufacture coach number. It depends on what number you want to go by. Lucky for me both the vin and manufacture number is the same model year.
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As I started earlier, the state must go by the vehicle manufacturers statement of origin. That is Federal Law.
Finally found the cite:
http://www.winnebagoind.com/resource...Motorhomes.pdf

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What information is used by the state DMV offices to register motorhomes?
When a consumer has a new motorhome registered for the first time, the state DMV will use both the VIN assigned by the incomplete vehicle manufacturer and the model year and make assigned by the final stage motorhome manufacturer for the vehicle registration. All states should title motorhomes using the model year assigned by the final stage motorhome manufacturer.
What should I do if a state DMV registers a new motorhome with the chassis model year?
If a DMV employee insists on using the incomplete chassis model year, please call the Recreation Vehicle Industry Association at 703-620-6003 for assistance
. Ask for the Government Affairs Department
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