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Old 10-12-2014, 11:35 AM   #29
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There are several legitimate reasons that can happen.. But I am not going to list them because it is clear that the dealer simply feels he does not need your custom (Business) so become a Customor.. Somewhere else.
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You already have fixed pricing, just pay the MSRP for your coach or offer the asking price ........
Not so, Steve. In the areas of negotiated retail in the US-- primarily real estate and vehicles-- the MSRP or asking price is already corrupted and skewed upward by the anticipation of a negotiated final sale price.
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.......just because a seller... negotiates doesn't mean they're not honest or trustworthy. ...
I never said that a seller who negotiates is inherently dishonest. What I said was that a system of negotiated retailing "...fosters dishonesty and corruption in the marketing process...", and that when buying retail in such a system, "...the buyer has no basis upon which to judge the merchant's marked price. [and] The opening position of the seller must be taken as "If you are an unwary or unsuspecting buyer I'm going to screw you to the wall.". Surely you can see the difference.
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Old 10-12-2014, 12:17 PM   #32
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.....Seems to me that negotiating has worked fine in the USA for the past 238 years this country has been in business and not so well in the former Soviet Union since they had price-fixing there. Not trying to be rude, but I must ask. Since you don't negotiate, did you pay MSRP or the advertised sale price for your Dutch Star?

It is price-fixing that allows dishonesty and corruption, not negotiating. You are assuming that dealers don't lie...


First, negotiating has NOT "worked fine" here for the last 238 years, as evidenced by the fact that the preponderance of retailing is now carried out on a fixed-price basis. *see below


Second, <sigh> I wrote "fixed-price retailing", not "price-fixing". Please read, don't just scan. In point of fact, I specifically cautioned (in brackets) that.. "[I do NOT mean any type of government mandated pricing. I mean only a system where the price marked is the price you pay.]"

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I like fixed price retailing....this a major reason why Car-Max is a huge success. The price posted on the car is the lowest, and the only price everybody pays. I like that.

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My big beef is with the used MH ads. Some don't list engine type or size. Nor size of generator but instead just type GEN. But they find it important to list the couch has throw pillows.
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I never said that a seller who negotiates is inherently dishonest. What I said was that a system of negotiated retailing "...fosters dishonesty and corruption in the marketing process...", and that when buying retail in such a system, "...the buyer has no basis upon which to judge the merchant's marked price. [and] The opening position of the seller must be taken as "If you are an unwary or unsuspecting buyer I'm going to screw you to the wall.". Surely you can see the difference.

I must be doing something right, like knowing market value before I negotiate. Quality and price have always been in the Buyer Beware Isle. On RVs, if somebody is not a fool, I wouldnt get a good price. A Free Market.
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Why do dealers...

Yeah, yeah, and you always get the same car for a couple of Gs less than anybody else.

".... if somebody is not a fool, I wouldnt get a good price...."

I'm still working on this one.
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Not since getting my degree in Economics 30 some years ago have I read so much nonsense on market clearing beliefs. Lol. Sellers the world over are jumping out of windows because you folks won't buy from them.

ECON 101 - Business owners are big softies who care what you think. Yeah Right.
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