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Old 06-26-2015, 08:06 PM   #1
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Why I Don't RV Or Even Drive in California

Yes, I know the high fuel prices, the unbelievable traffic congestion, the lack of common courtesy of CA drivers, and a stack of other reasons, but this one takes the cake. ‘All about the money’: Motorists plagued by sky-high Calif. traffic ticket fines | Fox News

I didn't before, but now I'm doubly sure I won't.

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Old 06-26-2015, 08:35 PM   #2
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The only reason that I go through California anymore is to see one sister and one of my aunts. The last time I was in California, I was lucky enough to be able to get fuel in Nevada going in and not need any fuel until I got back into Nevada. I used to live in California in another century, when it was a much nicer place.
I am sure that there are those that will disagree with me and that is OK.

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Old 06-26-2015, 11:38 PM   #3
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Lots and lots of people. We gas up in Yuma, park overnight at the acorn casino, and head to imperial beach very early on weekend. Opposite on the way back and more gas in Yuma.
I'd do almost anything for Shakeys pizza found only in California.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:22 AM   #4
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Regarding the news article on tickets; really, do we not wear our seat belts and have unlicensed RVs? When traveling just go around/outside the major cities and don't get caught up in the road rage and you will be good. Cost is very high for gasers if you don't run E85. You can't beat the weather here in Cali and can travel through out the year.
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Old 06-27-2015, 02:23 AM   #5
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Oh good, another bashing California thread. You can bash the state even more in future years as the drought takes a hold and you find out that California's vast rural and uncongested areas grow and raise nearly half of the US food production. We get first choice of that food now along with it a cheaper price. What are you going to pay in the future? Send us some cheap gas and maybe we will send you some food.

By the way, using FOX news for a source? A fine in Tx for driving with insurance carries a three year surcharge of $250 a year - yep a $750 surcharge plus the fine too. And interviewing the people standing in line at a court? Most people would pay a fine online or mail it in - so what kind of people are standing in line at the court? "Uh, yea I found out I had a warrant" - that kind!

Yea there are prices to pay when living here, but food is cheaper and more plentiful, the weather is far better than any where else in the US. We have Yosemite, about 7 other NP's, a couple dozen other National Monuments and Recreation areas, Sierra Mountain range and 840 miles of ocean , lots of BLM and plenty in between all of that.

And everyone knows its a significant fine to park in a disabled parking spot, drive in the commute lane with only one in the car or drive without insurance, but they do it anyway and then complain about the fine. When they don't pay the fine, it goes up - well duh! Don't do the crime if you can't pay the fine - or better yet, just move the hell on out to some cockroach, mosquito laden state with humidity measured in how much sweat is rolling down your face. And if you don't want to come see this state, that is fine with us - there are plenty who do.
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Old 06-27-2015, 04:32 AM   #6
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Adding onto Nomad Mike, try actually reading the article. This clown got a ticket that he ignored, refused to show at his court date, had his license suspended but then ignored that and drove to work. I'm retired USAF, but have no pity for this vet - in fact, I'm surprised he made it out of Iraq without killing himself or some of his fellow troops.
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Old 06-27-2015, 08:59 AM   #7
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That kind of stupidity on the road won't be missed.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:10 AM   #8
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I recently drove from Las Vegas, up I-5 past San Francisco, then up the coast in our 45' Motorhome.

I was initially a bit concerned, but it was a great trip. No interactions with the Police.

I found diesel prices were about the same as other states, but Gasoline was far more.

Don't hesitate to drive in CA. It is a wonderful state.

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Easily solved by obeying traffic laws. Works in all states!
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:37 PM   #10
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California is a mixed bag...it has every kind of terrain, roads, views, mountains, oceans anybody could want. Yes, that's why it's packed with people. We are thinking of moving away from the rat race, and visit family with the RV.

Remember....news is just an exaggeration of reality. ;-)
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:50 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Arizona View Post
I'd do almost anything for Shakeys pizza found only in California.
There was a Shakey's in Omaha at 63rd and Ames when I was growing up in the '60's.

They are in WA, CA, AL,HW and Mexico.
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Old 06-28-2015, 01:46 PM   #12
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There's an easy solution...don't be stupid and get a ticket, and if you do, pay it or contest it within the time window. I've lived in CA the entire time I've had a license, and the last moving violation i received was in 1982, so it's possible to exist without having that issue. That being said, I can't wait to get out of this state, but only because it truly is the land of fruits, nuts, and outstretched palms (on every street corner) and is run by a bunch of inept, corrupt, and flat out stupid politicians.
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Old 06-28-2015, 02:55 PM   #13
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For the California bashers, there's an old saying "If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes".

How's the view back there?
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Old 06-28-2015, 03:20 PM   #14
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Interesting how posting a personal opinion becomes California Bashing by Californians. Everyone has their own opinion, but when an article and reasons for an action is posted it all of a sudden becomes a social boo-boo. Of course they also add a dose of FOX Bashing, but that doesn't appear to count. If you like it there, be my guest. If you are undecided, consider the facts in the article, if you don't drive in California, proceed to the next thread.

I worked with LEO's for years and a ticket isn't always given when a violation is observed. Some will write it to make a point and take the possible tongue lashing from the magistrate if it goes to court. Unfortunately, when I'm traveling I don't intend to return to fight a ticket or hire a lawyer to do it for me, but paying $900 for a violation that has a $100 fine just to pay the California social fees is not my idea of a place I want to be.

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