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Old 01-21-2014, 12:15 PM   #15
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We use to live in California;It's a good place to be from( far from ).
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We use to live in California;It's a good place to be from( far from ).
Nothing better that sunny San Diego, but feel free to enjoy the Polar Vortex.
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California is TERRIBLE!!! Everyone should STAY AWAY!

And ya' know it's only a matter of time before the whole state breaks off from all the earthquakes and sinks into the Pacific.

But, everyone is welcome to visit...maybe to get warm(?)
Come enjoy the ocean and beaches, the mountains and deserts, the wilderness and big cities, the Delta, the Redwoods, and even the massive central valley that feeds much of the US...just, please take someone with you when you go home

Finally, it doesn't matter if you are in the Southwest or not - only you can prevent forest fires.

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California is TERRIBLE!!! Everyone should STAY AWAY!
I agree stay away, try New York or New Jersey.
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To each his own. Winter around here sucks but, we don't have 1/1000 of the crime to deal with that my sister that live in LA has. I sent her daughter books once for Christmas and someone stole the books of off there front door step before they got home from work/ school. Plus, she keeps getting rear ended because she grew up in the Midwest and she stops at red lights and stop signs. She has tried to break that habit but, if she slips up she get hit again.

She is a school teacher and she was telling me a story once that there was a man who walked down the street on the sidewalk across from the school. That alone was enough that the school went into "Lock Down" and they slammed the gates shut. (Not to mention the fact that the school has a chain link fence around it and gates to slam shut.) Then the parents that had kids in the school heard about this and ran to the school to try and get there own kids out but, the school wouldn't let them and sent the guards outside to keep the parents back. I guess this sort of thing happens fairly frequently.
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I was born and raised in CA, but when they taxed my business out of the state I moved to FL. Now I have the best of both worlds, great weather and NO state income tax. I won't even talk about the traffic
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I will have to agree in the at one time a long time ago, California was one of those places that was really nice. Luckily I left there over 45 years ago, before it started going down hill fast. I will take the weather, people and politics here(Alaska) any day over what California has become. I still have family that reside in California and do visit them but other wise, it has gotten to the point that I will avoid it if possible. It seems that a lot of people in California forgot what 'freedom' is about and not creating too many laws/taxes that are meaningless.
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To each his own. Winter around here sucks but, we don't have 1/1000 of the crime to deal with that my sister that live in LA has. I sent her daughter books once for Christmas and someone stole the books of off there front door step before they got home from work/ school. Plus, she keeps getting rear ended because she grew up in the Midwest and she stops at red lights and stop signs. She has tried to break that habit but, if she slips up she get hit again.

She is a school teacher and she was telling me a story once that there was a man who walked down the street on the sidewalk across from the school. That alone was enough that the school went into "Lock Down" and they slammed the gates shut. (Not to mention the fact that the school has a chain link fence around it and gates to slam shut.) Then the parents that had kids in the school heard about this and ran to the school to try and get there own kids out but, the school wouldn't let them and sent the guards outside to keep the parents back. I guess this sort of thing happens fairly frequently.
You are judging California based on LA, so Colorado has bad school systems based on the Columbine shooting. Tennessee has a higher crime rate than California.
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I live in Big Bear Lake directly east of LA. Big Bear is a mountain resort community made famous by Dorner, Earthquakes and Forest Fires. Our air is about as clean as you can get and we get over 300 days of sunlight each year. We have 4 seasons. We can get a lot of snow and have two wonderful ski resorts. We have a large lake with about 1 million trout. 20 million people live within a two hour drive supporting our economy. San Bernardino National Forest gets more visitors each year than Yellowstone and Yosemite combined.

We are a 2 hour drive from LA, San Diego and the beaches. We are a three hour drive From Vegas and 5 to Napa Valley. We are within a days drive to Yellowstone, Yosemite, Joshua Tree, Zion, Brice, Canyonlands, Grand Canyon, Monuments, Sequoia, Tahoe, Mammoth, Mono Lake and even Quartzite. Our home is at 7,000'. People are fishing today and skiing. It will get up to about 60. We have no need for air conditioning. About 700,000 people visit our two ski resorts each year.

We have 400 miles of dirt forest roads and some of the best 4 wheeling in the world, John Bull, Holcomb Creek, Gold Mountain, Pontiac Sluice and many more black diamond trails. The Mojave Desert is 18 miles away.

Yes we have Taxes but most of us feel it is worth it. Some move but 38 million stay. Our property taxes are reasonable not like Wisconsin's and are protected by Prop 13. Our economy is larger than most countries.

Our family likes where we live and so far none of the daughters or granddaughters are interested in leaving. To top it off we live in a real log home.

I think most of us live in an area that fits our needs. Each of us has different needs. Big Bear Lake is a hidden gem and we all love it. Come visit our state! It is huge. We are thinking of buying Oregon and Washington State. If they won't sell we might invade them. Love to tell Oregonians that.
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You are judging California based on LA, so Colorado has bad school systems based on the Columbine shooting. Tennessee has a higher crime rate than California.
One does not have to compare LA to the rest of California. Just look at the differences in the 'life style' from the southern part to the northern part! Yes there are some really nice places in California, but there are lots of other reasons that one would not want to live there. The times that I have gone back to my 'old stomping' grounds, it has been disheartening. Places that I could go freely anytime that I wanted to are now controlled to the point that one needs to plan months/years ahead to go there. Where we used to be able to camp along the beaches on the coast, are now restricted to 'day use' only. I could go on and on but you get the idea.
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I live in Big Bear Lake directly east of LA. Big Bear is a mountain resort community made famous by Dorner, Earthquakes and Forest Fires. Our air is about as clean as you can get and we get over 300 days of sunlight each year. We have 4 seasons. We can get a lot of snow and have two wonderful ski resorts. We have a large lake with about 1 million trout. 20 million people live within a two hour drive supporting our economy. San Bernardino National Forest gets more visitors each year than Yellowstone and Yosemite combined.

We are a 2 hour drive from LA, San Diego and the beaches. We are a three hour drive From Vegas and 5 to Napa Valley. We are within a days drive to Yellowstone, Yosemite, Joshua Tree, Zion, Brice, Canyonlands, Grand Canyon, Monuments, Sequoia, Tahoe, Mammoth, Mono Lake and even Quartzite. Our home is at 7,000'. People are fishing today and skiing. It will get up to about 60. We have no need for air conditioning. About 700,000 people visit our two ski resorts each year.

We have 400 miles of dirt forest roads and some of the best 4 wheeling in the world, John Bull, Holcomb Creek, Gold Mountain, Pontiac Sluice and many more black diamond trails. The Mojave Desert is 18 miles away.

Yes we have Taxes but most of us feel it is worth it. Some move but 38 million stay. Our property taxes are reasonable not like Wisconsin's and are protected by Prop 13. Our economy is larger than most countries.

Our family likes where we live and so far none of the daughters or granddaughters are interested in leaving. To top it off we live in a real log home.

I think most of us live in an area that fits our needs. Each of us has different needs. Big Bear Lake is a hidden gem and we all love it. Come visit our state! It is huge. We are thinking of buying Oregon and Washington State. If they won't sell we might invade them. Love to tell Oregonians that.
Couldn't have said it better!
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One does not have to compare LA to the rest of California. Just look at the differences in the 'life style' from the southern part to the northern part! Yes there are some really nice places in California, but there are lots of other reasons that one would not want to live there. The times that I have gone back to my 'old stomping' grounds, it has been disheartening. Places that I could go freely anytime that I wanted to are now controlled to the point that one needs to plan months/years ahead to go there. Where we used to be able to camp along the beaches on the coast, are now restricted to 'day use' only. I could go on and on but you get the idea.
Sad, but that happens to many places that are crowded and popular. How would it be if it wasn't restricted? Probably damaged and poluted.
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California has really nice State Parks many with campgrounds. Twice a year we go to Doheny or Bolsa Chica State Beach Campgrounds. I've already reserved stays in Rancharia (Huntington Lake), Twin Lakes and June Lake all USFS campgrounds in the High Sierras. I am sure almost everyone has used Reserve America to make their camping reservations. If not visit their internet site.
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