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Old 01-21-2014, 02:39 PM   #29
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Meet a client through work who "moved and retired" in Western New York (Buffalo to some) from Carson City, CA. His reasoning was that CA was too expensive to live in for retired folks and that it was fast becoming a young person only state. He sold his quaint 3br 11/2bath cape cod for 800K and moved to one of Buffalo's wealthier sub-burbs and bought what he called a palace for just over 300K.

I realize that the geography of the state is breath taking beautiful. However, IMHO the politics and taxes that exist there would prevent me from ever wanting to move there. Had a job interview one time and I was asked if there is one place I would not accept a transfer to, and of course I answered California.
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So for business owners and retired folks, not that good. I can live with that.
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Hey DennisLee, I used to work with Arco and BP in Prudhoe and Union Oil in Kenaii. I just finished an order for BP in Prudhoe. I've visited Ohio many times. Born in Chicago, went to school in Iowa, then grad school at Michigan State. Taught at the college level went to work for Shell in Houston then transferred to Bakersfield. I think it's pretty safe to say that politics and to a certain extent taxes are screwed up in each of these states. Politics are screwed up, and taxes in our country period.

So we all might as well live where we are happy.
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We like visiting San Diego for the great ocean views and the mild weather , we may live there one day when I retire and possible full time .

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Sigh... yes, as we all know that California is the only state where you can be cited for excessive smoke, or has high registration fees, or taxes you don't like, or too many people, or crime, etc., etc.

I've lived in a lot of states (including CA) and all of them have their own bits of silliness, sometimes making California look sane by comparison (check out what you'll pay to register your vehicle next door in good 'ol conservative Arizona.) It gets so I half expect someone to complain about getting a flat tire on I-5 and somewhere later in the thread read 'only in California...'
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Forrest grump, Big Bear Lake sounds real nice.

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Hey DennisLee, I used to work with Arco and BP in Prudhoe and Union Oil in Kenaii. I just finished an order for BP in Prudhoe. I've visited Ohio many times. Born in Chicago, went to school in Iowa, then grad school at Michigan State. Taught at the college level went to work for Shell in Houston then transferred to Bakersfield. I think it's pretty safe to say that politics and to a certain extent taxes are screwed up in each of these states. Politics are screwed up, and taxes in our country period.

So we all might as well live where we are happy.
Bakersfield has plenty of cows and bugs, stinks, and gets hot in the summer, therefore, California sucks. Just kidding, but Bakersfield can crank out the 100 plus degree days.
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When I think of california , never mind it just can't be printed !
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When I think of california , never mind it just can't be printed !
I have a hard time too, looked outside, sunny again and 77 degrees,[moderator edit].
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When I think of california , never mind it just can't be printed !
Same way I feel about Florida and many other states, once was enough. just sayin.
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Same way I feel about Florida and many other states, once was enough. just sayin.
Boot camp made me feel that way.....
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Hey DennisLee, I used to work with Arco and BP in Prudhoe and Union Oil in Kenaii. I just finished an order for BP in Prudhoe. I've visited Ohio many times. Born in Chicago, went to school in Iowa, then grad school at Michigan State. Taught at the college level went to work for Shell in Houston then transferred to Bakersfield. I think it's pretty safe to say that politics and to a certain extent taxes are screwed up in each of these states. Politics are screwed up, and taxes in our country period.

So we all might as well live where we are happy.
You had me right up until the Michigan state part , could have been worse could have been Michigan. I have a friend that is a Michigan State Alumni, I use his football tickets from time to time. One year I went to see the Buckeyes play the Spartans. Was the only guy on that side of the field wearing scarlet and gray.

I have office in Anchorage, Prudhoe Bay and Kenai. Also have office in Chicago, Houston, Torrance. Pretty similar path it looks like. But I'm an Ohio State fan.

Politics are bad everywhere.
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Bakersfield has plenty of cows and bugs, stinks, and gets hot in the summer, therefore, California sucks. Just kidding, but Bakersfield can crank out the 100 plus degree days.
Yup that's Bakersfield! We had 60 days in a row over 100. But unlike the rest of the country Bakersfield gained 100,000 people in the last 10 years. Homes are affordable. It is conservative. Schools are good. Lots of jobs, good jobs. Lots of country music. Bad air comes from the Bay Area.

Believe it or not California air quality is improving. LA actually has clear days. San Bernardino has clear days. Rainy days would be nice.
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