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Old 05-04-2015, 11:32 AM   #127
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Originally Posted by Gordon Dewald View Post
Sorry Mr Grump you took it that way. You drive a car that is much better in spite of government not because of it. You are probably not old enough to remember a fellow named Ralph Nader. If not for people like him the car industry would likely still be making marginal cars.

Not to long ago GM was knowingly producing cars with faulty ignition switches. Here is an article that may be of interest. GM Recall, faulty Ignition Switch - Consumer Reports

Nader had nothing to do with taking TEL out of gasoline, volatility specs for gasoline, mandating and improving gas mileage, taking the sulfur out of gasoline stocks and diesel. I don't think he had anything to do with making cars better other than bringing to the forefront in a self serviant way some safety concerns. Nader had nothing to do with the dual overhead cam engine competition did.

What made American cars better were Japanese cars and some with huge reluctance such as GM. GM's X car series of the 70's DISASTERS. GM's foray into fuel injection, BMW too for that matter were also disastrous at first.

Competition forced the American automotive industry to be better and it still does. Korean cars have forced Everyone to be better. For some illogical and nonsensical reason car manufacturers to this day become complacent, overwhelmed with their selves and end up losing and producing crap.

Now if they could only learn how to make an airbag.

To the guy in this thread whose back wall of his shower was not glued in, it's not supposed to be or the same guy whose tank vent ended up in the wall, that's a vacuum breaker not quality issues.

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Old 05-07-2015, 11:58 AM   #128
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Let's not forget GMs attempt at a diesel in the '80s, converting a gas motor to diesel. GM put a bean counter in charge of the company and that was the beginning of the end.

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Old 05-07-2015, 12:15 PM   #129
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Or the 4,6,8 engine!
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Mr. Gump, if I'm not mistaken that motor was 8-6-4 that was in the higher end GM cars. Father-I-law had it in his Caddie. He never had any trouble with it. He got rid if the car because the electric seats kept giving him problems. Had over 200k when they parted ways. He really loved that Caddie and 8-6-4 motor.

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My brother had the 4,6,8 cad too. I think they bought it back from him if I remember right. Quite a few years ago.

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