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Old 04-28-2016, 06:22 PM   #15
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Old 04-28-2016, 06:24 PM   #16
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I think you just proved my point


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At least part of the answer to both the noise and the fuel economy questions are that they do not matter very much. Letting a useless survey sit with no one pointing that out gives the survey a false legitimacy.

In the case of the gas vs diesel noise measurement it would only be of any significant interest if there were comparable units available. There are not. Thus it is an apples vs oranges comparison.

If you want to get a survey of different models or manufacturers of the similar units it might be of interest. That said the noise levels are the least of my concerns around what unit to buy. Unlike a lot of other things it is relatively easy to improve.
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:03 PM   #17
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Why respond to threads you are not interested in?

You cannot rouse the troops to a cause they see as moot. They have their RVs, and are happy with them!
Perhaps RVs should be vendor/industry rated on noise levels as well as all other aspects? Good idea!
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:44 AM   #18
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I think you just proved my point
It is hard not to get personal with something like this. It seems you really do not have a point. Many of us are interested in fuel economy, noise levels, and a lot of other things. That makes anything posted about them on topic for us. Then it becomes an issue of what the actual focus of the particular question is. Sometimes it is useful information and sometimes it seems someone is just trying to stir up a non issue like the difference in cabin noise of a front engine gas chassis vs a rear engine diesel. We call folks on those because they are wasting our time with things that are on topic and pointless.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:59 AM   #20
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Unfortunately, if I responded to the question of why people do this, it would be a full out attack on the individuals hidden behind their monitors who feel the need to respond in that manner.

I suppose it is the nature of the internet, and certain questions in this forum will elicit a barrage of negative and dismissive gibberish. Politeness and mom’s old idiom of “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all” goes straight to the recycle bin.

Sometimes I just want to whip out the popcorn when someone asks if their vehicle can pull a certain trailer. Even after most responses say it can be done, it doesn’t matter how big a truck they have, someone will whip out the multi-million dollar NASA tow capability mega-computer and explain that only an idiot would attempt to tow that trailer with any vehicle currently available on the market.

People ask questions, and sometimes those questions are just to satisfy a simple curiosity. For those people, there is no crime in wanting to compare an apple to an orange. After all, they are different. How are they different? And yes, someone out there actually prefers one over the other. But, they obtained that preference by satisfying a simple curiosity: Which is better? The apple, or the orange.
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Way back in the beginning of internet forums, I thought I had an 'obligation' to respond to threads if I was a member. Now, if it doesn't interest me or have little or no knowledge of the subject, normally just move on. I also move on if it's a diesel vs gas power or similar kind of subject as it has been flogged to death. Post count - nah. I have too many other things in my life.

Speaking of 'life' and if it was to be measured in years via a 6 foot, 72" tape measure, I've already passed the far end and hope that someone really meant it was an 8 footer, (96")

The subject of noise or F53 chassis RVs - nah, not normally a subject I'll spend some time on but the F53 with Ford's V10 will always be discussion grist and gas mileage - after owning a TV (truck) with one. Engine/operating noise - it IS the prime mover of your home away and it will not be quiet hauling X number of tons.

OK, I've posted on a subject that I'm really not interested in and made my quota for the time being(plus added to my post count)
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I ran a political forum on another web site. Most of the posters were very educated generally nice people. Tryiing to keep them on topic and not striking out at those they disagreed with became a full time job.
This site pretty much stays on topic and doesn't hold a lot of personal attacks. Most posts are supportive and people tring to help each other.
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I agree. This site is very good and the number of personal attacks and flame wars are negligible. I've learned a lot here and like to share what I know ( or think I know) with the other members. Many times people say things here that might appear mean spirited, but in fact are either poorly articulated or maybe just blunt.



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I ran a political forum on another web site. Most of the posters were very educated generally nice people. Tryiing to keep them on topic and not striking out at those they disagreed with became a full time job.
This site pretty much stays on topic and doesn't hold a lot of personal attacks. Most posts are supportive and people tring to help each other.
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It is hard not to get personal with something like this. It seems you really do not have a point. Many of us are interested in fuel economy, noise levels, and a lot of other things. That makes anything posted about them on topic for us. Then it becomes an issue of what the actual focus of the particular question is. Sometimes it is useful information and sometimes it seems someone is just trying to stir up a non issue like the difference in cabin noise of a front engine gas chassis vs a rear engine diesel. We call folks on those because they are wasting our time with things that are on topic and pointless.
Don't reply = Not wasting your time.
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Speaking of rude people,What really gets my goat is when you go to the trouble of looking something up for someone or simply answering a question and they can't take the time or just don't have the common courtesy to say "Thank You" almost makes me want to never answer another question.
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Speaking of rude people,What really gets my goat is when you go to the trouble of looking something up for someone or simply answering a question and they can't take the time or just don't have the common courtesy to say "Thank You" almost makes me want never answer another question.
Ain't this the truth.
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