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Old 03-16-2014, 06:32 PM   #29
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I zoomed in on the rear and it looks like his tag is on Dooley's
anyone else see them?
Could it be sitting on a Tommy lift type lift, I believe they are frame mounted.
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I don't understand how that would work based on my rudimentary understanding of pivots, fulcrum points and levers. Regardless of the "pivots" or whatever, unless this contraption directly loads the axles (bypassing the suspension) when you cantilever it out there, it is going to add directly to the back of the coach.
The axle is the pivot point.
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Dependent upon which chassis they have between 30,000 and 32,000 lbs of combined axle rating, I think their in the clear weight wise.

Our coach can easily handle that extra load and still not be maxed.

As for the carrier, I promise you all it's not a Walmart cargo carrier. It's designed for smart cars and side by sides. They come with multiple frame mounts, not just the factory receiver hitch.

Now the width, that will be up to the officer.
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I know the car is small,but when I drove up and looked at it,that sucker looked like a monster hanging on back there.I do think some people are pushing these coaches to the limit.
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Old 03-16-2014, 11:15 PM   #33
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He is putting more than the weight of the car on the coach just due to the fulcrum effect. (Remember the teeter totter) If he jacked up the rear end, then his ride height will be out of wack. I don't see any helper hardware on the setup. All I am seeing is the mud flap
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I would bet it works similar to a weight distributing hitch which is a fairly common principle for towing travel trailers.
That being the case, the load would be distributed over the frame, not just the portion behind the rear axle.

If it's done properly (big IF)...then I think it's a great idea. No tow bar, no aux brakes, etc.

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I not sure exactly what he has but I'll bet by looking at it he has done his research and all is well.

I would think he doesn't have much more weight on the back than some of those large coaches pulling those stacker trailers???

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Personally, I wouldn't take the risk. For the money and (what if's) spent on that setup I'd much rather rent a car at each destination or tow it conventionally. The only thing he gains is being able to back up. Boohoo! LOL Always plan ahead.
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The weight distributing hitch for travel trailers works because the trailer has wheels.

This principle won't work in this case because the car is entirely supported by the MH.

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I would bet it works similar to a weight distributing hitch which is a fairly common principle for towing travel trailers.
That being the case, the load would be distributed over the frame, not just the portion behind the rear axle.

If it's done properly (big IF)...then I think it's a great idea. No tow bar, no aux brakes, etc.

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Well more power to him who ever it may be.

I do not see the real advantage given the small amount of time it takes to unhook four down and the small amount of thinking it takes to avoid backing up, and I would not follow this person too closely.

But those are not criticisms just my thinking. We have all seen worse, much worse.
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What about this!!

If there's no water in it.......it would be lighter..haha!!!
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The Essex in that shot is carrying a Dream Maker Fantasy spa - only 256Lb empty.

The photo is the older version of this:
2 Person Hot Tub | 3 Person Hot Tub | Dream Maker Spas

I have the old version of the EZ Spa...SO EASY to use, lightweight, and only needs 110VAC vs. 220.

Now about the Smart car...that's a WHOLE DIFFERENT deal. But, we have 2 in our family a 4-2 and a Cabrio. THEY ARE AWESOME! Drive like a Go-Cart and very fuel efficient. I can see why the featured RV would want one.

But I would put the car in in the back of my RV...like in this picture from a RV show:
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The smart cars are not all that fuel efficient according to Gas Mileage of 2013 Vehicles by smart
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The smart cars are not all that fuel efficient according to Gas Mileage of 2013 Vehicles by smart
Darn those 36MPG cars

It's better than the nearest micro-car competition Fiat 500:
Gas Mileage of 2013 Vehicles by Fiat

Hey what do you want for a non-turbo, non-hybrid, gas powered go-cart.
Sorry, we aint buying a Prius

Now... If someone got an eSmart, plug in at the campground post and drive for free!
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