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Old 01-21-2016, 03:07 PM   #1
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Why weigh the toad

I understand the 4 corner weight on the MH but I don't understand where the toad figures in.It look like the only weight you would be adding to the MH itself is the weight of the towbar.Can somebody set me straight on this.
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I understand the 4 corner weight on the MH but I don't understand where the toad figures in.It look like the only weight you would be adding to the MH itself is the weight of the towbar.Can somebody set me straight on this.
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IMO you need to know the weigh of your toad to determine that the total combined weight of your coach and toad together is less than the Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR), of your coach... AND to be sure that your hitch and your tow bar are capable of safely towing that toad.
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Mel almost had it right. You need to know the weight of the toad to make sure you don't exceed the gross combined weight rating - GCWR which is the total weights of the motorhome and what is being towed. It's more for braking and going up steep hills. It's one issue towing a car on flat land and another going up Pikes peak.
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I understand that part of it also,I'm just confused about the 4 corner weight,if you weigh the 4 corners with the toad off,won't the 4 corner weight be the same with the towbar on.
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Yes 4 corner weight will be the same. Weight of towbar is of no concern.
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I would think so. If you are towing 4 down, then when you weigh your motorhome, the weight of the toad will be negligible. So if you are towing, like I will be, a 2,700 lb Chevy Sonic which will have almost zero tongue weight, then no need. But if you are hauling a boat/tools/horse trailer where the tongue weight could be significant, then perhaps you should take it with you when you weigh your mh.

I personally think that unless you are carrying a lot of rocks (just watched The Long Long Trailer) then getting your unit weighed is for piece of mind only. Set your tire pressure, which is the only reason to get it weighed, to what the sticker says inside your MH. If you don't like the way the unit rides, then go get it weighed. Others WILL have a different opinion, which they are entitled to.
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I understand that part of it also,I'm just confused about the 4 corner weight, if you weigh the 4 corners with the toad off, won't the 4 corner weight be the same with the towbar on.
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Yes 4 corner weight will be the same. Weight of towbar is of no concern.
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If not "the same" it will only vary by a few pounds.
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Ok I agree 100% with all of you.That was my way of thinking.I don't think it's needed trying to get your tire pressure.
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The weight of the toad has absolutely nothing to do with the weight of the mh. It only comes into play to determine (as mentioned above) the GCVWR of the coach/toad combination and also any limitations of "towing" by either the coach's towing limits or the tow bar limits.

You only determine the coach's tire air pressure from the weight of the mh....not the toad.

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To end the confusion, here is how to compute the tow rating. It is the lower of:

1. Coach's hitch rating.

2. Coach's tow rating.

3. Chassis tow rating (sometimes different than the coach's).

4. The difference in weight between the coach's GCWR and the coach's actual weight when ready to tow
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Most chassis manufacturers say you can't increase the amount you tow just because the RV weighs less than the GVWR. The max tow rating is the max it can tow even if nothing is in the RV.
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Well.....I have a different opinion, so not trying to step on any toes. If you want your coach tires to handle correctly, wear well and ride as softly as possible, you need to weigh your coach. Using the sticker on the wall is no different than filling the tires to max air pressure. You're guessing and asking for a rough ride or under inflated tires. The wall sticker doesn't account for loading or how many will drive with things such as a full water or empty water tank.....which can be up to 700-800 pounds in weight.
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Well.....I have a different opinion, so not trying to step on any toes. If you want your coach tires to handle correctly, wear well and ride as softly as possible, you need to weigh your coach. Using the sticker on the wall is no different than filling the tires to max air pressure. You're guessing and asking for a rough ride or under inflated tires. The wall sticker doesn't account for loading or how many will drive with things such as a full water or empty water tank.....which can be up to 700-800 pounds in weight.
This is correct, but OP was asking about weighing the toad so I'm not sure how it relates.
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Your RV has two maximum load ratings, For example.....

My RV has a maximum COMBINED GVW of 26,000 pounds
And a maximum GVW of 22,000 pounds

So what does this mean.. I can tow a maximum of 5,000 pounds (hitch rating) or the difference between 26,000 and the actual weight of the RV. So if I'm running max weight on the RV (I DO) then I can tow a maximum of 4,000 pounds, or in other words a 1992 Chevy Lumina APV,, (I used to tow just that, I now tow 2500 pounds of Dodge)

But a 5,000 pound JEEP would be... TOO MUCH

This is why you need to weigh everything.
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