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Moseh · 01-20-2019, 01:31 PM

We have two dogs, one of which is handicapped and in a wheelchair. We also have a fencing setup using Iris Playpen panels (from Amazon) that with a total of 64 panels we can make a large or small enclosure as needed. We frequently receive comments from other campers on how nice and attractive this fencing is.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

The problem is that we frequent a membership campground (#cheap) that has a somewhat unreasonable management staff... so I am looking for alternatives. (I know... change campgrounds... not our preferred option)

I would like input on experiences and recommendations for a wireless pet containment system or an invisible "lay the wire on the ground" system.

Thanks for your help.

Jim18655 · 01-20-2019, 02:52 PM

I use a underground type fence system at my house. The fence really isn't to contain the dog as much as it gives them a warning of the learned boundary. You train your dog to recognize the acceptable play/roaming area and the fence just warns them they're too close to the edge. A shock only scares them back. If they ever realize they can just run through the fence you have to start over. Since you have to use flags and let them learn the area I don't know how well it would work when you change sites since the scenery would change and they would lose their point of reference.
They do make a fence that broadcasts a signal in a circular area from the center point but, once again, I'm not sure how it would work with different sites.
The wired type can be placed on the ground and still work.

Old-Biscuit · 01-20-2019, 03:14 PM

IF the CG Staff are giving you grief over the playpens....do NOT expect better response with 'invisible fence.

Standard pet rules at CGs is: ALL Pets MUST be on Leash (under direct control) when outside. Can not be left unattended.

Leash is for Pet, you and others safety.

Would imagine the CG Staff applies that same rule to all campers

Moseh · 01-20-2019, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit

IF the CG Staff are giving you grief over the playpens....do NOT expect better response with 'invisible fence.

Standard pet rules at CGs is: ALL Pets MUST be on Leash (under direct control) when outside. Can not be left unattended.

Leash is for Pet, you and others safety.

Would imagine the CG Staff applies that same rule to all campers

Our pets are always attended when outside, but it is nice to not have to be constantly untangling leashes or cables. Thanks for your opinion.

Old-Biscuit · 01-20-2019, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Moseh

Our pets are always attended when outside, but it is nice to not have to be constantly untangling leashes or cables. Thanks for your opinion.

Not my opinion really

But is PET Rule at most CGs

Might want to check and see how they respond to 'invisible fence' idea

We traveled FT for 7 hrs with a dog and Leash Rule was standard PLUS Many States have Leash Laws when in public

Just saying..........

Jay D. · 01-20-2019, 04:19 PM

I would also like to try a wire when camping .our dog is pretty hi strung, but I have a wire around 1 1/2 acers of your house and it works perfect. it took her about 3 days and she knew exactly were she could go and couldn't go. I put up flags at first in most of the area but nothing in some parts. they get to know the warning signal real fast, dogs are really very smart. now she is very comfortable and has the run of 1 1/2 acers.
Jay D.

hohenwald48 · 01-20-2019, 04:48 PM

So if you use an invisible (wire) fence how does that keep out other dogs, squirrels, rabbits and kids? And how does someone walking by know your dogs are marginally restrained by an invisible fence that may or may not keep them away? Not everybody likes or trusts other people's dogs.

I don't think you'll find many CGs that will approve of that. I doubt many approve of a large 64 panel fence either. CGs are usually pretty tight and neighbors are close. The rules are in place to protect folks from other folk's pets and to help people feel comfortable around your animals.

Additionally, as Old Biscuit says, most states have leash laws that may put the CG owner at risk if not enforced.

Moseh · 01-20-2019, 05:47 PM

I feel as though my question is being treated as offensive. I was merely hoping to get equipment advice, not life advice. Please forgive the intrusion.

Old-Biscuit · 01-20-2019, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Moseh

I feel as though my question is being treated as offensive. I was merely hoping to get equipment advice, not life advice. Please forgive the intrusion.

No reason to get panties in a wad simply because different points of view and actual experience does not agree with your idea of pet control when out in public or doesn't conform to CG Pet Rules.

Might be the reason hinted at in your statement:
The problem is that we frequent a membership campground (#cheap) that has a somewhat unreasonable management staff...

Explain 'unreasonable'

Yosemite77 · 01-21-2019, 04:49 AM

My experience with an invisible fence was that it worked fine until a squirrel happened to stray nearby. Then it was if the fence didn’t exist. Keep in mind the dog will get zapped when they try to return.
I’ve seen good looking dog fences in RV parks and some that were pretty ugly. Even if the OP”s fence is of the good looking variety (link didn’t work), the park owners might not want to be put in a position of having to decide if one fence is okay while another one isn’t. The easy solution for them is “No fences”. Pure speculation on my part.
Good luck to the OP on finding a solution.

justlou · 01-21-2019, 08:36 AM

The underground fence at our sticks & bricks house works very well once our dog was trained. Squirrels and other critters that come inside the boundary, do so at their own risk. The one thing I would consider is there is a warning zone about two feet before the wire and it will cut down the area your dog will have. If your area is 10 feet across, you will only actually have 6 feet for the dog before he/she gets warned. Also if you lay the wire close to your RV it will extend through the wall into the RV.

Moseh · 01-22-2019, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Yosemite77

My experience with an invisible fence was that it worked fine until a squirrel happened to stray nearby. Then it was if the fence didn’t exist. Keep in mind the dog will get zapped when they try to return.
I’ve seen good looking dog fences in RV parks and some that were pretty ugly. Even if the OP”s fence is of the good looking variety (link didn’t work), the park owners might not want to be put in a position of having to decide if one fence is okay while another one isn’t. The easy solution for them is “No fences”. Pure speculation on my part.
Good luck to the OP on finding a solution.

Thanks. My math was silly on the panels. 4 sets at 8 panels per set... 32 panels

. But I'm not trying to use that many. The rules say 8'x8'... which is not unreasonable. The panels are just a bit over 2', so 4 panels per side puts us at about 8'6". Mgmt says unacceptable. 3 panels by 3 panels is just too small for 2 dogs... one in a wheelchair. I asked if I could do 3 panels x 5 panels... NOPE. I'm leaning toward an invisible fence where I can lay a wire on the ground, versus a wireless system that provides a radius from the transmitter. I think I need more control over the shape of the area. Leashes and cables get all tangled... been there done that. They are well behaved and would probably be fine without anything, since I'm always with them if they are outside, but I would like the added peace of mind, and I would like to post a sign, so other campers (... and mgmt) know they are contained. Your point about the squirrels is well taken. One of mine would be fine.. the other... I don't have 100% comfort level. My only real solution may in fact be another campground. We've have used our fence in many others with no problems.

Yosemite77 · 01-22-2019, 11:06 AM

Is there any way to shorten one of the panels in the middle (or on the end) so that it meets their guidelines? I’m not sure what the fence looks like, but perhaps you could use a combination of dowels/zip ties/wire to reconnect the sections.

Jay D. · 01-22-2019, 11:11 AM

here's what I have thought I was going to get some rubber hose or tubing in some color red, yellow, white, or if not paint it if needed. get enough to do what you want secured. run the wire through the tubing and connect to the transformer. just lay the tubing on top of the ground it won't take very long and the dogs will know exactly what the tubing is for. the transformer could be plugged into your outside receptacle. when done simply unhook from the transformer and roll the tubing up with the wire still inside and store it a way. example the tubing could start outside your entry door and loop around on top of the ground and back to the transformer.
its not 100% foolproof i'm wanting to do this for when we are boondocking to have a little better control over my dog. i'm going to investigate about running the transformer with 12v shouldn't be a problem, it may already?
Jay D.
P/S to the O/P there are some rude people here just waiting to pounce on someone if they deviate just a fraction from the norm. you asked a good logical question.