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Old 01-31-2019, 06:34 PM   #1
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I looked back as far as 2013 and every “International” rally was hosted in the US. Why is it called an “international” rally if it never goes outside the US? Sure anyone from other counties can attend but that’s the case for every rally. Having attendees from outside the US doesn’t make it international. A more accurate name would be “National” rally.

I’m not trying to stir the pot here but its just not correct to call a rally “international” if its never held outside the US.
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With all due respect, there is more than one definition of international. A simple Google search brings up many. One of the definitions is "An event involving more than one country". Another is "A gathering existing, occurring, involving or carried on between nations". Our rallies are events/gatherings that involve members of more than one country...hence the title.

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Old 02-01-2019, 04:19 AM   #3
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With all due respect, there is more than one definition of international. A simple Google search brings up many. One of the definitions is "An event involving more than one country". Another is "A gathering existing, occurring, involving or carried on between nations". Our rallies are events/gatherings that involve members of more than one country...hence the title.

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Again, the fact that people from other countries will attend the rally does not make it international! By that logic EVERY rally, in every country, could be called "International".

iRV2 has a sub-forum called "Regional Chapters, Campouts and Rallies" but I didn't see any evidence of club chapters. Is there such a thing here? If, indeed there are international chapters of a club and the rally is a formal gathering of those international chapters, I could see the "international" moniker.
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Again, the fact that people from other countries will attend the rally does not make it international! By that logic EVERY rally, in every country, could be called "International".
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This is not factual. Like International Ports of Entry and International Airports, it is the people who patronize it that make it International.

And, there is no need to have LAX or the lanes at San Ysidro cross a border for them to be called International.

This is uniformally true like; the annual Comic-Con Int'l to the AEA Int'l Convention for the general aviation industry.

If other Rallies have an International attendance (which most do not), maybe they should add International to their Rally name too.

We here very much enjoy how the individuals of the membership are open minded, positive, and supportive of others and the Forum. It is great when ALL here strive to share this positive nature.

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Old 02-02-2019, 10:58 AM   #5
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Again, the fact that people from other countries will attend the rally does not make it international! By that logic EVERY rally, in every country, could be called "International"..
Itat, We transitioned from National to International beginning in 2015 by request and petition from the members that participate and attend the rallies. It was their purpose to be welcoming and inclusive to all RVers from wherever they might travel to which we had no objection.

The process began in 2014 and a lot of ink was allocated to the discussion more so than your observation that International in your opinion arises a question as to whether of not it's appropriate.

Recently we have welcomed people from Canada and as far as Australia to attend the iRV2 rally. The scope and reach of iRV2 is global and we receive a great deal of traffic from Canada, South America, Europe and the other Continents across the face of the Earth other than Antarctica.

As an International organization and one of the largest RV social networking providers on the Internet, the members believe it to be all together appropriate to participate in an International Rally. As an International traveler and RVer, consider yourself invited and please make plans to come to Myrtle Beach this October.
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Does iRV2 have formal business relationships and a presence - say, formal chapters - in any country other than the US?

Many US RV dealers and parts suppliers do business with people in countries outside the US via the internet but they are not international businesses. They have no business operations outside the US.

Unless iRV2 has business operations outside the US it is inappropriate to call it “international”.

Comic Con events are held around the world, so Comic Con in San Diego, as the biggest of them all, can reasonably be called international. Comic Con is an international organization.

With regard to ports of call, they are called international because they conduct international trade. There is a formal, cooperative relationship with other countries related to the movement of goods and people.

iRV2 is a US social media network that has no business relationship with other countries. iRV2 accepts members from around the world but has no formal presence in any other country. At least I didn’t see anything on the forum to indicate otherwise.

I have no doubt that the rally has attendees from around the globe but it has always been and likely will continue to be held in the US.

A good analogy here is sports leagues. Major League Baseball’s championship series has always been called the “World Series” but prior to the entry of the Toronto Blue Jays in 1977, the league was composed of only US-based teams. Sure there were players from other countries but it was a US-centric league with no teams from other countries. Similarly, the English Premier League has soccer players from around the world but it is not an international league because the teams are only from the UK. Both leagues attract fans from around the world. The National Football League has it right (although everywhere else in the world you can’t touch a football with your hands, but that’s another thread).

I mean no ill will here and hope you have a very successful rally in Myrtle Beach, but this is a pet peeve of mine. I won’t take up any more of your time on this. I’ve said my piece and will move on.

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WOW! @ itat: Give it a rest man!! If you are not interested in attending the rally then don't attend it. But seriously, debating semantics in this thread is completely unneccesary and IMHO inappropriate.

As for iRV2 = call it whatever you want... cosmic, galactic - just everyone have a good time!!
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AGAIN, not factual...
Comic-Com Int'l San Diego is a stand alone, CA non-profit.
https://www.comic-con.org

Same with the AEA Int'l convention...very international patronage, but always held at a US venue.

And, all Ports of Entry and Airports are gov't sanctioned, but the operation itself does not conduct Int'l trade and there is no formal "club" these operations must belong to.

Like our Rally, it is the PEOPLE that patronize the event that makes it International.

I'd leave the sports event naming out of this. There is little to no rhyme or reason to their method of marketing.

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As one who sits outside of the US forest looking in I have to smile at such self agrandising labelling as well. The worst one is the World Series of baseball. Oh really! The whole world? Ever seen a team outside of N America in the "World Series"?

Here is another good one for misnaming that is accepted & has been for a very long time.

Who are Americans? Go to the United Nations & you won't find a desk there with a country called "America" there. You will find "United States OF America". If you look on a map you will see that Canada occupies the largest portion of North America. That makes them Americans. Mexico & every little nation down to Panama are part of North America making every one of them Americans also.

Names of things. Fun stuff sometimes.
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As one who sits outside of the US forest looking in I have to smile at such self agrandising labelling as well. The worst one is the World Series of baseball. Oh really! The whole world? Ever seen a team outside of N America in the "World Series"

Names of things. Fun stuff sometimes.
I have never seen a team outside of North America that could compete other than Japan possibly and they seem to be content with their wonderful NPB. However if you find one perhaps they would like to petition the league to join.......??
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international adjective
in·​ter·​na·​tion·​al | \ ˌin-tər-ˈnash-nəl , -ˈna-shə-nᵊl\
Definition of international (Entry 1 of 2)
1 : of, relating to, or affecting two or more nations
international trade
2 : of, relating to, or constituting a group or association having members in two or more nations
international movement
3 : active, known, or reaching beyond national boundaries
an international reputation
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