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10-28-2016, 05:28 AM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2016
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Looking forward to our new RV
Hello all!
I joined yesterday with a mission to further my education on what will be our ultimate decision for a Travel Trailer. I started that conversation about a real four season travel trailer, then I realized I was being rude by not stopping in here first, my apologies!
We're organic fruit farmers and we're nearing retirement. We'll buy our RV late in the summer next year, as we can't get away until about October each year. We need to be back full time in April to start up the greenhouse.
We had decided on the layout and amenities we wanted early on in our quest. When we started to whittle down our selections, things got a bit more complicated. When the question of RV'ing in the winter arose, the search seemed to come to a crawl.
We're enjoying the many threads and subjects and I look forward to chatting with all of you. Just in one day I have learned so much!
Brian
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10-28-2016, 05:42 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Country Coach Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Glen Allen, VA
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I am sure travel trailers have changed/improved (at least some) since we last owned TT's. I think you will be challenged to find one that is truly a good choice for winter use. The things I would want to inquire about would be:
-double pane windows
-extra insulation options, in roof, floor and sidewalls (sidewall insulation limited by wall thickness, of course).
-heated holding tanks
-options for heat.....LP furnaces in most RV's gobble LP. If you can get roof heat pumps instead of just simple AC units, that would be a plus in cool weather (temps above 38-40F).
Most TT's seem to sit much higher on their frames than in the old days so you have the under belly exposed to cold and wind. Good insulation in the floor is important.
Good luck with the search.
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2007 Country Coach Allure Siskiyou Summit, sold/traded Nov. 2018.
2019 Grand Designs 384GK-R 5th wheel. Glen Allen, VA
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10-28-2016, 07:15 AM
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Community Moderator
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Weyauwega, WI US
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We are pleased you joined us. There is a wealth of information available to you here. Browse the forums that interest you and don't be afraid to ask questions as our members like to help when they can. Enjoy the forums.
Don
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10-28-2016, 09:07 AM
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Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, MS
Posts: 54,578
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Hi Brian! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!
Hope you find the perfect rig for your needs!
Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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2002 Monaco Windsor 40PBT, 2013 Honda CRV AWD
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10-28-2016, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smlranger
-double pane windows
-extra insulation options, in roof, floor and sidewalls (sidewall insulation limited by wall thickness, of course).
-heated holding tanks
-options for heat.....LP furnaces in most RV's gobble LP. If you can get roof heat pumps instead of just simple AC units, that would be a plus in cool weather (temps above 38-40F).
Most TT's seem to sit much higher on their frames than in the old days so you have the under belly exposed to cold and wind. Good insulation in the floor is important.
Good luck with the search.
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What is learned so far is that:
double pane windows are important ***without aluminum frames.
I've learned that the marketing verbiage does not insulate the travel trailers very well. As in climate package glacier package severe weather package whatever they call it. So far it comes down to the science of what actually insulates and what doesn't. Then how well the drafts are kept out.
I've never heard of heat pump in place of an air-conditioner what a great idea, I will explore that! We actually wondered whether we needed an air-conditioner anyways.
We also learned that skirting the trailer is important we spent part of our first winter at this house in an non insulated travel trailer.
Right now we're leaning towards ODM Creekside models and arctic fox. If anybody knows of travel trailers that can rival their level of build please advise .
BTW thank you all for your warm welcome.
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10-28-2016, 05:41 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Country Coach Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ModestMonk
What is learned so far is that:
double pane windows are important ***without aluminum frames.
I've learned that the marketing verbiage does not insulate the travel trailers very well. As in climate package glacier package severe weather package whatever they call it. So far it comes down to the science of what actually insulates and what doesn't. Then how well the drafts are kept out.
I've never heard of heat pump in place of an air-conditioner what a great idea, I will explore that! We actually wondered whether we needed an air-conditioner anyways.
We also learned that skirting the trailer is important we spent part of our first winter at this house in an non insulated travel trailer.
Right now we're leaning towards ODM Creekside models and arctic fox. If anybody knows of travel trailers that can rival their level of build please advise .
BTW thank you all for your warm welcome.
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The roof top heat pump to which I refer is both an air conditioner and source of heat. The Air Excel (Coleman) Mach 8 unit is an example.....15,000 BTU AC/Heat Pump. Like most heat pumps, it will do a good job of providing heat in ambient temps of not less than about 40F. Below that, they do a pretty poor job in the heat mode.
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2007 Country Coach Allure Siskiyou Summit, sold/traded Nov. 2018.
2019 Grand Designs 384GK-R 5th wheel. Glen Allen, VA
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10-28-2016, 06:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Modesto, CA
Posts: 292
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Welcome. Happy times ahead when you get your chosen rig. Enjoy your travels and if you pass through CA be sure to wave.
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John & Marilyn
2004 Dolphin Heritage LX, 32 ft
Modesto/Ceres CA
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10-29-2016, 02:42 PM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,804
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I do have a good handle on the heat pump now, thanks. Now to start learning more about the propane furnace that come in the trailers. I assume that they're all direct vent? If not, why not? My understanding is moisture is your enemy when camping in cold weather.
I realize that you can plug in various types of portable electric heaters when you're on shore power. However when going from point A to point B or you're not on shore power, and it's bitter cold out having to run the propane furnace to keep tanks from freezing sounds expensive. I have to have something to keep those holding tanks warm. 12v heat pads?
This may not be the place to have this discussion somebody might point me in the right direction I'll post these questions there. 🤓
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11-07-2016, 06:45 AM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,804
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I've realize the value of the community. I've learned so much in such a short time, thank you all!
I've signed up to be a supporter.
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2018 ORV 24KTS 30,000+miles
2017 Ford 3.5 TwinTurbo w/MaxTow
640 Watts solar/600 Ahr
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11-07-2016, 11:05 AM
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Community Moderator
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Point Pleasant Beach, NJ
Posts: 31,248
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Glad to have you here in the forum with us.
Happy Trails.
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2016 London Aire 4519, Freightliner chassis, Cummins ISX, 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, Blue Ox Avail with AF1. TST 507 TPMS
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