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Old 08-05-2016, 01:11 AM   #1
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I suppose this is where I should start. Of course, I could be wrong. That actually happened once. As it turned out, I thought I was wrong, when I wasn't. It was all very embarrassing and was what caused my insanity. But don't worry about my sanity. After all, those of us who understand reality know that far from being a handicap, insanity is a virtue. That's why I'm considering starting the Center for Psychotic Achievement.

Also, as you might have figured out, I'm just a tiny bit sarcastic.

My wife and I are just starting to look at Diesel Class A pushers, for full-time travel. Our target is something in the 40' to 45' length, bath and a half, all electric, and new or like new. At this time, we are looking seriously at the Thor Tuscany 45AT, the Tuscany 42GX, and the Newmar Dutch Star 4369, to name just the top three early contenders, on our list. That could easily change though.

What all this boils down to,is that I'll be asking a lot of questions that may sound dumb. There is no question so dumb that I won't ask it. But I'm not so dumb that I won't seriously consider answers from those who know more than me. Eventually, I'll know it all and develop a big when head. But that will take at least a week or two.

I'll see you around the forums.
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Welcome aboard. Another 1 1/2 bath MH you might look at is the Pheaton. I have the 42LH tag axle and there is also a 40 foot non tag but I don't remember the model designation.
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:36 AM   #3
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Welcome folks, buying a 1-3 year old gently used coach is a good choice. As you may already know, Newmar is a step above Thor products. Be aware also that adding a second bath to a 40 ft coach you do lose size in other area's of the coach. We full time in a 42 ft single bath coach, and would not want anything smaller. You might also look at Entegra, and American Coach products as well. Good luck shopping.
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Hi John! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!

Hope you find the perfect DP for your needs!

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Old 08-05-2016, 03:22 PM   #5
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Welcome aboard. Another 1 1/2 bath MH you might look at is the Pheaton. I have the 42LH tag axle and there is also a 40 foot non tag but I don't remember the model designation.
Thank you for the suggestion, Selah. In fact, we plan to look at the Pheaton tomorrow. We started out looking at 38 to 42 foot models, but after seeing the actual difference, we have upped our target to 42 to 45 foot. That extra few feet makes tons of difference.
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Welcome folks, buying a 1-3 year old gently used coach is a good choice. As you may already know, Newmar is a step above Thor products. Be aware also that adding a second bath to a 40 ft coach you do lose size in other area's of the coach. We full time in a 42 ft single bath coach, and would not want anything smaller. You might also look at Entegra, and American Coach products as well. Good luck shopping.
We have already looked around for a used coach that would fit our requirements and continue to do so. But I suppose that everyone else must be looking for the same thing, because we haven't found a one… yet.

We are going back out to Camping World again this weekend and to a couple of local dealers. The Entegra is one that we hope to see, along with some others of both better and lesser quality ratings, for comparison. I'll look for American Coach products, as well. I have not yet seen them at the dealers where we have visited. But then, we just started looking (for motorhomes, instead of 5th wheels). By the time we buy, we'll probably have seen everything in our target length, price, and other specifications, several times over.

We like the bath and a half option, because it's what you get with a rear bath and the rear bath typically gives a little more bathroom space – in the Thor, it's dramatically more bathroom space. When we first saw the various models of motorhomes with a bath and a half, we decided to up our target length from the 38 to 42 foot range, to 42 to 45 foot range, in order to account for that lost living space.

I want a motorhome like the TARDIS, that's much bigger on the inside than the outside, but without the funny noise that the TARDIS makes.
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Stay away from Camping World and Thor!

John,

There are too many good choices you mentioned in your post to consider Thor/Camping World. Thor utilizes Schwintek slide mechanisms which are horribly designed and have an undependable track record. Newmar, American Coach, Monaco and others are by far better and you'll have a great experience owning one. Good luck with your search and take your time.
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There are too many good choices you mentioned in your post to consider Thor/Camping World. Thor utilizes Schwintek slide mechanisms which are horribly designed and have an undependable track record. Newmar, American Coach, Monaco and others are by far better and you'll have a great experience owning one. Good luck with your search and take your time.
I found out yesterday that Thor does NOT use Schwintek slide mechanisms in their Tuscany line. They are 100% hydraulic slides - Lippert/LCI - for even the smaller slides.

I have seen and like the Newmar line. Their "Comfort Drive" technology sounds interesting, though I haven't tried it yet. Even though I'm a technogeek (and partially because I'm a technogeek), I'm still a little leery about driving assist technology. I think that technology will some day be the standard. But having worked in the area of leading edge technology, I know that getting all the bugs out of new systems can take decades and I'm not sure that I'm willing yet, to trust my family, my coach, and perhaps the lives of others on the road, to such new technology. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with it. I'm just saying that I don't think most such driver-assist technology is quite ready for prime time. But what do I know? I once thought that a Dual direct drive turntable represented the ultimate sound reproduction technology that man could achieve. Go figure…

As for American Coach, Monaco, and others, such as Entegra, that are not commonly available in Houston, I'm planning on going to Dallas next weekend, to visit Motorhome Specialist and see those lines. I also saw some very nice Tiffins in Houston yesterday. I like the Bus over the Prevost, in that line.

Thanks for the suggestions.
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John,

I'm not sure of your source but even in Thor's factory tour you can clearly see the upper and lower tracks mounted on the slide boxes. Even if you didn't care about this, consider all the other problems you'd be buying with a Thor...poor factory service, non-existent support and endless other repair issues. Dealers are already struggling with their manufacturing partners in warrantee issues across all brands- Thor's reputation here is as bad as the products it produces. Read RV News and other trade periodicals as well as the forums. You'll be spending lots on a rig- new or used. MHRVS is a good place to start- their reputation is solid and most people give them fair reviews. Unless you don't care about money- be careful about buying all the techno stuff- it's all maint. and repairs down the road. A high end coach will be full of it unless you get a nice '05 thru '08 pre emission diesel- they still offered lots of nice features and would make a great buy if in good condition. Good luck with your search and don't be afraid to travel a little to find it.
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I'm not sure of your source but even in Thor's factory tour you can clearly see the upper and lower tracks mounted on the slide boxes. Even if you didn't care about this, consider all the other problems you'd be buying with a Thor...poor factory service, non-existent support and endless other repair issues. Dealers are already struggling with their manufacturing partners in warrantee issues across all brands- Thor's reputation here is as bad as the products it produces. Read RV News and other trade periodicals as well as the forums. You'll be spending lots on a rig- new or used. MHRVS is a good place to start- their reputation is solid and most people give them fair reviews. Unless you don't care about money- be careful about buying all the techno stuff- it's all maint. and repairs down the road. A high end coach will be full of it unless you get a nice '05 thru '08 pre emission diesel- they still offered lots of nice features and would make a great buy if in good condition. Good luck with your search and don't be afraid to travel a little to find it.
My source for the part about all of the Tuscany slides being hydraulic was Motor Home Specialists. From what I can tell, the Tuscany is the ONLY Thor model that uses all hydraulic slides or has standard Independent Front Suspension. The Tuscany also appears to be the only ALL-Electric Thor model.

As for reading, I'm inhaling tons of info from RV News and other places, including this forum. I have no intention of buying till I am fully educated. Many, many years ago, I sold Chevrolets, so I know how to deal with auto sales people and how to get the best deal. Since I don't have that kind of motorhome experience, I'm depending on people like you, on these forums and on magazines, to help me make an informed decision. I'll be going up to Dallas, for their motorhome show and I'm looking for others to go to.

As for traveling to find it, I plan on going to Dallas either next weekend or the weekend after that, to visit Motor Home Specialist. One of the reasons for going there is that they carry several brands that I'm interested in seeing. What this means is that the salesman will be less likely to inflate the value of one brand over another, since he carries both brands. So far, in Houston, the Tuscany salesman put down the Newmar, that was sold next door and the Phaeton that I had mentioned, for not having all Hydraulic Slides or Independent Front Suspension. The Newmar salesman put down the Tuscany and all other coaches that don't have their Comfort Steer feature. The Tiffin salesman put down both the Newmar and Tuscany. So I'm looking for dealers that carry certain competing brands that I'm looking at, so the salesman, having both on the lot, will be less likely to play favorites.

I'm also considering a trip to Indiana. I would even travel to Canada, if that should happen to be where the coach I settle on is located. But first, I have to learn everything there is to know about buying a motorhome. That's why I'm on this forum. In that regard, thanks for your input. I'll keep what you have said in mind.
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National indoor RV center has been mentioned as a GREAT dealership in various places on these forums. I believe that they have a Dallas location, too.

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National indoor RV center has been mentioned as a GREAT dealership in various places on these forums. I believe that they have a Dallas location, too.

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Thanks. I think that's one of the places we have on our list to visit, when we go to Dallas, either this weekend or next.

We are also considering a possible trip to Indiana, but have not yet scheduled it. Too much yet to learn, before making that trip.
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