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Old 06-11-2006, 10:48 PM   #1
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I submitted the following problem to workhorse. I wondering if any of you have had the same problem: I have a 2002 32' Monaco Lapalma with the chev 8.lL engine, 35,000 miles. On two occasions the engine won't crank. Turn the key on, the normal dash lights come on but it will not crank. On the first occasion I had to be towed off a ferry (I live on an island). I called a mechanic and before the mechanic arrived the engine started normally and continued to do that until mid-way through the next trip. This time I stopped at a mall, when I attempted to start, it would not crank just like the first time. This time I had it towed to a Workhorse authorized repair station in Marysville, WA. They had the coach for 10 days and every time they tried to start it, it worked fine. They run a number of tests, talked with workhorse rep and everything seemed to be normal. They could not find any problem. I picked it up and brought it home. I'm afraid to take it on another trip for fear it will fail to start when I'm in the middle of nowhere. I travel all across the US frequently to visit family, but now my transportation is hampered by this machine that might not start the next time I shut it down. I have enjoyed my motor home and have been well satisfied until this starting problem developed. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND HOW IT MIGHT BE SOLVED. Thanking you in advance, Ron Myers
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I submitted the following problem to workhorse. I wondering if any of you have had the same problem: I have a 2002 32' Monaco Lapalma with the chev 8.lL engine, 35,000 miles. On two occasions the engine won't crank. Turn the key on, the normal dash lights come on but it will not crank. On the first occasion I had to be towed off a ferry (I live on an island). I called a mechanic and before the mechanic arrived the engine started normally and continued to do that until mid-way through the next trip. This time I stopped at a mall, when I attempted to start, it would not crank just like the first time. This time I had it towed to a Workhorse authorized repair station in Marysville, WA. They had the coach for 10 days and every time they tried to start it, it worked fine. They run a number of tests, talked with workhorse rep and everything seemed to be normal. They could not find any problem. I picked it up and brought it home. I'm afraid to take it on another trip for fear it will fail to start when I'm in the middle of nowhere. I travel all across the US frequently to visit family, but now my transportation is hampered by this machine that might not start the next time I shut it down. I have enjoyed my motor home and have been well satisfied until this starting problem developed. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND HOW IT MIGHT BE SOLVED. Thanking you in advance, Ron Myers
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Old 06-12-2006, 12:43 AM   #3
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Ron, welcome to iRV2.com. We are glad to have you join us here and we look forward to reading of your adventures and experiences. Sorry to hear that you are having starting problems at times. Have all grounds been checked? It sounds like there could be a loose ground that most of the time makes enough contact to not give a problem and then every once in awhile it fails. Other things would be the transmission neutral/park switch, ignition switch, starter solenoid and of coarse the harness connecting all of these together. Hopefully the problem will be found and you can travel in confidence onc again. Good luck and enjoy the website.
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Hello Ron,

Welcome to iRV2, we're really glad to have you here as a new member and are looking forward to reading about the resolution of the starting problem on your Monaco Lapalma. You'll find a great bunch of folks on this site who are very knowledgeable of RVing, the rigs we use, and the places we go in them.

As you'll see, they're eager to help and share their knowledge and experiences with others.

Again, welcome to iRV2, we're glad you joined.
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:42 AM   #5
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ron myers:
DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ron, In my experience I found that I had exactly the same problem and the resolution was to replace the starter. The problem was an intermittently failing solenoid.

There is also a crank relay that can be removed from the front fuse block and slightly tapped on the frame. Sometimes this offers a remedy. You can always exchange it with the adjacent relay it has the same part number in order to rule that out.

There is a 10 amp crank fuse as well you should check.

You can immediately tell if you have a failed solenoid by jumping the solenoid post with an appropriate tool for the purpose, (jumper wire with alligator clips) to the battery post on the starter itself. If the starter turns over - bad solenoid.

Once your motorhome has started it may start again numerous times before it hits the bad spot in the solenoid and then you would be back to not starting again.

Since you are out of warranty, you will find that a new starter isn't inexpensive however it should resolve your problem. Good luck and thanks for coming here and allowing us to help you work through your problem.
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Old 06-12-2006, 06:17 PM   #6
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I had a Chevy 350 where the starter solenoid would seize when hot. After cool down it would crank just fine.
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Ron,
To eliminate the neutral/ park switch... hold your foot on the brake (plus make sure the park brake is on) and turn the key on and hold it in the start position, move the gear selector from park to neutral. If the engine starts when it hits neutral or somewhere in between it is a bad switch.
If that is not the problem then try jumping the relay as described in an earlier post.
If the starter is the problem check with an aftermarket company such as Accel to see if they list a high torque starter for your engine...I'm sure they do..... and invest in a starter heat shield which is usually like a little blanket to keep the heat built up in the engine compartment from cooking your starter when you shut down.
I have done this for fellow RVers and some are still using the same starter 7 yrs later.
MOST IMPORTANT--diagnose before throwing parts at it.....it's cheaper that way!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RV4FunFixer:
MOST IMPORTANT--diagnose before throwing parts at it.....it's cheaper that way! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Exactly!
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Ron I had a similiar problem this spring. While going down the road the engine shut off just as if I turned the key off. Pulled to the side of the road turned the key and it started. Next day it would not start. Turned out to be the ignition harness connection on the steering column. It is a light blue connector with a dozen wires running thru it. It partially seperated at the connection. And eventually arched and burned some wires and melted some of the plastic. It was a cheap fix , around $180 for parts and labor.
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