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Old 06-30-2016, 09:56 AM   #15
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Podivin,

Thanks for the feedback, I understand which ads you are talking about now. I will talk with some folks to see how we can address it. The last thing we want is sponsors getting more and more blinky just to get your attention.

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You're quite welcome, happy to help. Feel free to PM me if you need anything else.
In MY opinion, if they just slowed down the refresh rate of the ads it would go a long way. A refresh of every second seems a bit excessive (though I understand they want to catch us before we click to a new page), multiple ads refreshing that often becomes annoying. I think if they slowed down to a refresh of every 10 seconds, or maybe even every 5, it would go a long way towards making things 'calmer' on the right side of the screen.
And really, this is a forum, we hang out on pages for a while reading stuff, it's not like we're changing pages every few seconds. (My guess is that you've got stats somewhere that back that up, something that shows how long people average on a page, or between clicks).
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:07 AM   #17
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... The last thing we want is sponsors getting more and more blinky just to get your attention.

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Do I detect just a hint of sarcasm here??


We all know that the sponsors want our attention, but there must be other ways to go about it.

Hey, I bought shocks from Ultra RV Products, does that count for anything??
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:30 AM   #18
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The way we addressed animation in the past was with very little rules. We basically put a file size limit on the ads so that they had to be under 20KB. Our thinking was that doesn't allow space for much animation. A year or two ago we had a sponsor who wanted to bring over an ad they already made from another site and it was bigger so we increased the size to 40KB. I did this reluctantly only after consulting the IAB to see what they suggest for file sizes. It looks like between now and then our vendors have squeezed every last bit of animation that they can into the 40KB. The unintended consequence of that change was ads that our users feel are more distracting. What we need to do now is find a balance. I will talk to our team and come up with something so it can ensure iRV2 members have a pleasant experience on our community.
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Do I detect just a hint of sarcasm here??

We all know that the sponsors want our attention, but there must be other ways to go about it.
I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. They could spoil our party if left without any rules. Once someone makes an ad that stands out more the others will follow and it could get ugly. We need to find a balance where they can get their message across but not in a way that is distracting.

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Hey, I bought shocks from Ultra RV Products, does that count for anything??
Awesome! I'm sure they appreciate the business and we are glad they are a supporter of our community.
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Do I detect just a hint of sarcasm here??


We all know that the sponsors want our attention, but there must be other ways to go about it.

Hey, I bought shocks from Ultra RV Products, does that count for anything??
Andy, I didn't read it as a sarcastic response. I try not to read meanings behind meanings. I figured you were sincere in trying to improve the forum. I know that's what you get the big bucks for. (NOW THAT'S SARCASM)
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Well, I'm kind of new here, but just my two cents worth...

As a recently retired Information Security Manager, the more incessantly flashing, blinking, and generally annoying an ad is, the more likely it is that I don't want any part of it. Unfortunately, ad's that misdirect to a site ready to deliver a payload of malware, are all to common... and the ad's that wave and scream "look at me and click here" are good ones to stay away from.

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To address the obnoxious ads in the right column, members do have the option of turning that column off:
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However, that also removes the Recent Discussions block, which many members like. Although you can see those top 12 anyway if you click on the New Posts tab.

While Andy works on trying to reduce the blinky ads, at least this is an option for ignoring them.

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Wow, glad this came up.... I have a new banner in the works and I'll be sure to tell them "no blinky".


Also it's helping me confirm my decision to NOT spend multiple THOUSANDS of dollars to support the forum next year.


So, My blinkie ads will go away soon. and eventually all of them.
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FWIW this was the discussion I was hoping for. I agree with Podivin and the comment about blinky adds often being traps. I will add that the products here are generally not impulse purchases. We do not need to be lured in. If we need a something we would like to come here and see who is supporting the site so we can give them our business instead of missing them because we are blocking the annoying advertising that distracts from the discussion.
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Wow, glad this came up.... I have a new banner in the works and I'll be sure to tell them "no blinky".


Also it's helping me confirm my decision to NOT spend multiple THOUSANDS of dollars to support the forum next year.


So, My blinkie ads will go away soon. and eventually all of them.
Sorry you feel that way. Only you can access whether advertising dollars spent in a place that brings people with the exact focus of interests that are your target audience or doing your advertising in a more general way is as efficient.

I would just take the opinions of those that have expressed them here that they are annoyed by distracting, blinking ads and design future ads that offer true value, information, and interest to attract RV owners into visiting your website.

Also as an aside, your threat to pull all ads and support from the website is not a real positive comment on your business. You're admission that, "My blinkie ads will go away soon" shows you're guilty of blinkie ads and you've learned from some forum members that their annoyance outweighs their business attraction. I'd take this thread as an education on how to structure future ads to gain business and not drive customers away.
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Ok, I'm thoroughly confused! I access iRV2 on my Apple iPhone and I don't see any ads, blinky or otherwise. What have I done wrong (sarcasm)?


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FWIW you probably have an ad blocker running so you do not see the advertising and a lot of other stuff worth seeing.
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FWIW you probably have an ad blocker running so you do not see the advertising and a lot of other stuff worth seeing.

You are correct. I have 1Blocker installed. It does it's job quite well. So well, in fact, that I had completely forgotten about it.


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