|
|
05-26-2019, 07:43 AM
|
#1
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Clover, SC
Posts: 6
|
Class A spare tires?
Folks, Have just bought my first pusher after having a Holiday Rambler front engine for 7 years. I was very surprised to be told that the bigger pusher rigs do not have spare tires because they are "too heavy" for owners to change. The only problem I ever had on my Holiday Rambler was with blowouts. That was with tires from different manufactures. Anybody have any thoughts on this? Thanks, John
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
05-26-2019, 09:48 AM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Ontario, California
Posts: 2,429
|
There's a lot of opinions on spare tires for pushers. First off, you'd be hard pressed just trying to remove the lug nuts let alone raising the coach to change a tire. A tire and wheel can weigh several hundred pounds and would probably require 2 strong men and a boy to lift it from a storage compartment (if you had sufficient room) If you buy a coach, then buy roadside assistance.
Another heated discussion deals with 'how long before I buy new tires" Personally I've always stuck with the 5-6 year rule. It's expensive but the problem with most of these tires is they don't get used enough and subsequently develop cracks and the moisture seeps from the tire making it ripe for a blow out. BTW, covering the tires when camping helps to keep them from cracking.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]2016 Newmar Dutch Star 4369
Newmar Owners Club
USAF 1966-1969,- Law Enforcement 1969 - 2003, Retired since March 2003
|
|
|
05-26-2019, 11:07 AM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 35,349
|
If you had problems with " blowouts " maybe you need to examine how you maintain your tires.
Most blowouts are due to running them with low pressures.
|
|
|
05-27-2019, 07:59 AM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 5,228
|
I carry a mounted spare on a Roadmaster Spare tire carrier. https://roadmasterinc.com/products/spare_tire/index.php
My 22.5 tire and wheel weighs about 150 lbs and the carrier weighs 70. That's pure tongue weight.
Have your tow hitch examined by a RV hitch company to make sure it can handle the weight, especially if you plan to tow a vehicle. The one I had was inadequate so I had a custom one made.
I don't plan on changing the tire myself (although I carry have the tools to do so) but I carry one so I have one and don't have to look for one when I need one or be at the mercy of the company that responds to my call.
__________________
Rick and Larrie Dee
1997 40' Newmar London Aire DP CTA 8.3 (Mechanical) 325 Spartan MM
Bringing her back to her glory.
'08 Jeep GC Overland.
|
|
|
05-27-2019, 08:48 AM
|
#5
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Sedona, AZ
Posts: 2,995
|
The tire is hard to get in Anyplace USA. But any truck tire place (including mobile ones) can put a new tire onto your existing wheel (unless the wheel is too damaged of course). So I carry a spare tire unmounted. Mine fit on the raised center area of my basements and I can manage them in and out with some effort.
__________________
Shell Bleiweiss
2014 1/2 Thor Challenger 37KT
Sedona, AZ
|
|
|
05-27-2019, 09:29 AM
|
#6
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: West Palm Beach, FL. USA
Posts: 27,563
|
It's not pusher vs front gas either. Our last gas chassis coach had 22.5" wheels and no spare. Just too big and bulky and too seldom needed to justify the space and weight. Never had occasion to regret that in 14 years of extensive travel, whether diesel or gas.
I think the bigger and more rugged tires simply fail less often, at least with adequate attention to pressure. In the prior several years with rigs that had 16" or smaller tires, a spare was more often needed and we carried one.
I know a few people who carry an unmounted spare, just so they don't have to buy a tire on the roadside in case of emergency. No doubt that could save money and maybe some time, but we always felt we would rather use the storage bays for stuff that brings us pleasure. If we ended up buying a tire at highway-thief prices, so be it. Cost of our enjoyment. Never happened, though. Not even in Alaska.
__________________
Gary Brinck
Former owner of 2004 American Tradition and several other RVs
Home is West Palm Beach, FL
|
|
|
05-27-2019, 10:05 AM
|
#7
|
Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, MS
Posts: 54,626
|
Hi ! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!
As others have said, it you were having trouble with blowouts you were probably running with tire pressures too low!
I have never had a blowout (knock on wood) and I don't see how I could give up that much storage space underneath! Have fun and keep her between the ditches!
Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
__________________
Joe & Annette
Sometimes I sits and thinks, sometimes I just sits.....
2002 Monaco Windsor 40PBT, 2013 Honda CRV AWD
|
|
|
05-27-2019, 11:35 AM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Delaware beaches
Posts: 1,164
|
At most, carry an unmounted spare. Then call your road service. Most can dismount the flat and mount the spare by the side of the road. Just make that clear when you call your road service. As to changing a mounted spare yourself, can you manage the necessary 450 lb. ft. of torque to remove and tighten the lug nuts? Then there is the safety factor of you doing this on the side of the road.
You paid a lot of money for your rig and worked hard to get it, why try to save a few bucks at this stage of your life? But hey, that's just me.
__________________
2005 Beaver Monterey 36' 400 hp Cat C9 Sold 9/20
2004 Newmar DS 4009 DP Sold 8/18
Delaware beaches ----- DW & Kip the Wonder Dog
|
|
|
05-27-2019, 11:48 AM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 478
|
When I got flat tire and it couldn't be repaired 2 years ago. I bought new steer tires and moved the current steer tires to the back and ended up with a spare which I carry in the basement. I would never attempt to change by myself but leave it to roadside service. Haven't had a need for it but glad I have it.
|
|
|
05-27-2019, 12:27 PM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
National RV Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Rice Lake, Wisconsin
Posts: 790
|
Carry mounted spare in the basement and tools to do the job myself!
Some day I may get old??? Too!!!
__________________
2003 National Tradewinds LTC 7374 FL XC-Chassis IFS, Steer Safe, 8.3 ISC 350 Cummins, 3000MH Allison, 2023 Equinox, Blue Ox Tow-Bar, Brake Master Air Over Hyd
|
|
|
05-27-2019, 01:16 PM
|
#11
|
Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 49
|
Also, figuring the torque of the lug nuts are generally around 320 pounds that too could present a problem
|
|
|
05-27-2019, 01:19 PM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
National RV Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Rice Lake, Wisconsin
Posts: 790
|
__________________
2003 National Tradewinds LTC 7374 FL XC-Chassis IFS, Steer Safe, 8.3 ISC 350 Cummins, 3000MH Allison, 2023 Equinox, Blue Ox Tow-Bar, Brake Master Air Over Hyd
|
|
|
05-27-2019, 01:25 PM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Fort Myers, FL
Posts: 1,669
|
I keep my spare tire at the local tire dealership...
__________________
2008 Phaeton 36QSH, Safe-t-Plus, Quadra Bigfoot
2017 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk w/ flat tow wiring mod.
Blue ox, BrakeMaster + BrakeAway, diode lights and charge.
|
|
|
05-28-2019, 05:50 AM
|
#14
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Clover, SC
Posts: 6
|
Thanks for all the great advice, folks. I think with my new rig having new Michelin 255s that are not out of date I should be okay. I also have removed all tire valve extenders on the advice of several service techs. On my last motorhome, I did a late winter trip of over 6000 miles with good tires and had no problems. Think I will go with the "no spare" option.
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|