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Old 01-31-2013, 05:15 AM   #197
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I think any slow-down is caused by all the ads irv2 tries to load, plain and simple. I suggested turning off all or some or some of the ads to see what happened and got no reply.

They claim over 105,000 members, but how many are still here?
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Do you get the jump in the page I am talking about Dunner?
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:42 AM   #199
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When I click on an email notification, it jumps right to the top of the first post that I have not read, with about a 10 ms pause.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:53 AM   #200
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Wayne: I accept your answer.

The follow-on question (and last), why only on IRV2.

I am a computer "slow learner".

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I'll give this one a shot, not sure if I'm right but the way I understand it.

Browsers rely on code or to put it another way a "language" HTML/XML or whatever the latest and greatest is to display colors/text and pictures. That's why some websites say "optimized for IE" and such. If one of the ads is using code that is not compatible with the IE it will cause IE to hang or not load properly. FF and Opera are much simpler (and smaller/faster) browsers and apparently don't have the issue.

The fact that the people who are using FF/Opera are not seeing the slowness that the people who are using IE are and the fact that it's a recent event tells me there are 2 possibilities.

1. IE pushed out an "update" that is no longer compatible with some lines of code on the site or in one of the ads.

2. The site or one of the ads recently started using code that is not read well by IE.

Either way there are thousands or millions of lines of code involved in a site this large making finding the problem a herculean task. I do know from my time as a webmaster of our Jeep club's site that if I make a small syntax error when writing Java I can cause the whole page to hang. It only takes a small error to make the line of code unreadable.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:13 AM   #202
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First, I'm using Firefox on a MAC, but I do use it on a PC Laptop also - just want to get that out of the way since so many posts do not identify the type of operating system or browser and it makes it very difficult for users with the same system to respond, and many that don't have that system respond with information that is of no help.

This is general"

I'm sorry all, but I don't want to take the time to do the research, but I did just search on "IE8 slow" without the quotes and saw many, many items reporting IE8 slow.

You say that "I'm no slow on other sites," and that is as true as a 24 hour day. Does it matter what is loading on the site? Yes it most certainly does. Some browsers are notorious for having to load the entire web page, ads and all, before one can start viewing, so when you click on a thread filled with adds it is going to require the browser to load all the adds, then it tells the browser that it is ready to view the page and it switches.

Computer speed, internet speed, browser capabilities, adds, and page features are considerations when "computing" how fast something is working in the browser world.

It seems the iRV2 relies on not only supporters, but Google ads for some of their revenue. The more space Google can get, most likely the more revenue for the iRV2 maintenance. Consider that Google just has a like on the web site, strategically placed, and the link loads the "Ad-Of-The-Day" or hour, or whatever time schedule they have decided. Let us suppose that the first hour is an add that is about 5 kb in size. It may only take a split second for it to load in the browser window. Now let assume that the second hour for that one link is an ad that is 5 mb, (hypothetical), the load time is going to be greater. The moving ads will take more time.

If the browser you are using requires a complete load of all the information on a page before it switches over, then that browser is going to be slow.


Also consider that any update to any software program on the operating computer "MAY" cause other problems including problems to the way a browser is operating. It is not supposed to happen that way, but trust me - updates can be demoralizing. Any update, it just happens.

I truly do sympathize with anyone who is having computer problems, or slow Internet. I do know how frustrating it is.

Happy trails.

Edited: I was typing this as Daveshan posted his response and his response is a good one.
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And I know ad is short for advertisement and add is a plus. I think my fingers were tired and resting on the "D" key. Oh, and "like" is link. Stupidity, dyslexia (not) and just plain..... well, you supply the descriptive adjective.

Sometimes typing at 70+ words per minute is a downfall also.
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I knew what you meant. The many forums I have been on has "conditioned" me.
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I'll give this one a shot, not sure if I'm right but the way I understand it.

Browsers rely on code or to put it another way a "language" HTML/XML or whatever the latest and greatest is to display colors/text and pictures. That's why some websites say "optimized for IE" and such. If one of the ads is using code that is not compatible with the IE it will cause IE to hang or not load properly. FF and Opera are much simpler (and smaller/faster) browsers and apparently don't have the issue.

The fact that the people who are using FF/Opera are not seeing the slowness that the people who are using IE are and the fact that it's a recent event tells me there are 2 possibilities.

1. IE pushed out an "update" that is no longer compatible with some lines of code on the site or in one of the ads.

2. The site or one of the ads recently started using code that is not read well by IE.

Either way there are thousands or millions of lines of code involved in a site this large making finding the problem a herculean task. I do know from my time as a webmaster of our Jeep club's site that if I make a small syntax error when writing Java I can cause the whole page to hang. It only takes a small error to make the line of code unreadable.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:04 PM   #207
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:46 AM   #208
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I don't care what others say about you, I think you are okay!
I often wonder how many people have me on "Ignore" for calling it like it is.

I can't compare irv2 to other forums as none I have been on have as many ads as it does. My suggestion to turn off some ads, to see if the offensive could be identified, was not addressed, either for financial or legal reasons.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:02 AM   #209
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I am at the point where I am about to put iRV2 on the ignore list. It is ridiculous to have to wait for some times as much as 30 seconds or a minute for something to load. Especially when I can go to RV.net and it cranks right up.
Don't hand me the line about it doesn't cost anything. Every time you visit this site, a hit is registered and iRV2 gets a payment from the ad company. As much as I enjoy the site and have friends here, I just don't want to do this silly waiting game any more.
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I just loaded Firefox. Loads are going much faster!
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