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Old 08-28-2012, 07:45 PM   #15
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:51 PM   #16
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So starting in the 50's the US started laying mile after mile of concrete ribbon called the interstate hiway system. At about this same time people started moving to the "burbs" and wanted paved roads to get them there. I read in the paper all the time how a new housing development wants paved roads and they want the county to maintain them.

Then they find out they have to be maintained/repaired/rebuilt. Don't want to raise the gas tax to fund it, don't want to increase income/property tax to fund them, are being told to buy electric cars which use the roads but don't buy gas, and now will be told to buy cars that get 54+ mpg further reducing the gas tax collections. More and more Americans qualifying to NOT pay any taxes at either the fed or state level.

Anyone else see a problem here? IF we want roads so we can drive our toys we got to find a way to pay for them.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:09 PM   #17
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my vote for the worst road is I40 around OK city. the concrete is all busted up and in very bad shape.
Ironic though in the same state is Weatherford, Oklahoma and the OLD route 66 concrete is smooth ans crack free.
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So starting in the 50's the US started laying mile after mile of concrete ribbon called the interstate hiway system. At about this same time people started moving to the "burbs" and wanted paved roads to get them there. I read in the paper all the time how a new housing development wants paved roads and they want the county to maintain them.

Then they find out they have to be maintained/repaired/rebuilt. Don't want to raise the gas tax to fund it, don't want to increase income/property tax to fund them, are being told to buy electric cars which use the roads but don't buy gas, and now will be told to buy cars that get 54+ mpg further reducing the gas tax collections. More and more Americans qualifying to NOT pay any taxes at either the fed or state level.

Anyone else see a problem here? IF we want roads so we can drive our toys we got to find a way to pay for them.
Tom,
You forgot all the other people that have their hands in the highway money jar pulling the money out for things that have nothing to do with
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:48 PM   #19
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In CA they are spending money on replacing the perfectly good steel guardrail under overpasses (that redirects an errant vehicle back into traffic instead of smacking a bridge piling) with perfectly good concrete guard rail. Good use of money? Duh.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:12 AM   #20
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I never intended for this to turn into a political discussion. I just wonder why there is so much construction but nothing seems to get completed? Why do 2 or 3 miles projects take 3 or 4 years to complete? Are they trying to do too many projects with too few companies? Have you driven on any roads that seem to be finished?
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:57 AM   #21
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my vote for the worst road is I40 around OK city. the concrete is all busted up and in very bad shape.
Ironic though in the same state is Weatherford, Oklahoma and the OLD route 66 concrete is smooth ans crack free.
I'll second that! The 40 mile stretch (that's all I've been on) from OKC west will shake you to like the good old days when the school teachers could!

However; I know of an even worse spot of highway, not interstate, but state highway, that is in Texas, that appears to have been being worked on for years and is still not finished. It will shake and shimmy you to madness....

SH 83 from FM 2711 to the R turn south into Canadian......

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&i...ed=0CB8Q9w8wAA
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:08 AM   #22
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I think the reason you see projects that seem to never end are a result of piece meal
approach. Rather than just do the whole job they do a little here and there and wait
for more funds.
About the longest project that took several years and I mean many years to do
was I-90 bypass of Wallace Idaho.
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I just retired last year after spending 37 years as a Superintendent in Freeway Bridge and Heavy Construction. What has changed over the years is Environmental, Safety, Political, Policies etc. There isn't enough space here to fully explain everything but basically it cost way more to do way less. There are more vehicles on the road nowdays too. Look at how big and heavy RV's have gotten over the last 15-20 years. Everything is being built bigger,better,stronger and made to last as long as possible but asking for smooth roads and overnight isn't going to happen.
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I just retired last year after spending 37 years as a Superintendent in Freeway Bridge and Heavy Construction. What has changed over the years is Environmental, Safety, Political, Policies etc. There isn't enough space here to fully explain everything but basically it cost way more to do way less. There are more vehicles on the road nowdays too. Look at how big and heavy RV's have gotten over the last 15-20 years. Everything is being built bigger,better,stronger and made to last as long as possible but asking for smooth roads and overnight isn't going to happen.
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How does all this explain why I almost always see the crews standing around scratching their heads. No matter where we travel , it seems like 10 miles of orange cones are put up ( usually a foot in my lane ) and very little is being done. Honestly , I don't know how they ever get done especially in places that have winter.
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I moved to southern Ohio in 1984 and took a trip to visit Wright Patterson AFB in Dayton. I75 had road construction going through Dayton at that time. I have traveled through Dayton many times over the years and as recently as two weeks ago, and there is still orange barrels and construction...it has never ended!
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