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tcg · 11-20-2019, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyMac

I see your point, but nobody ever made me take my prescription, I chose to take it. I chose to take it in accordance with the doctor's orders. I knew the risks of abusing opioids, very highly addictive. Who among us does not know the risk of abusing opioids, or about any prescription drug? Yet, knowing these risks, some chose to Doctor shop until they could get what they wanted without medical necessity. Who does not know that meth/crack/heroin is addictive, yet many chose to abuse it. A cabinet full of opioids does no one any harm until someone decides to use them without medical necessity.

Pain is part of life. There are many of ways to deal with pain other abusing a drug everyone knows is highly addictive. Rather than lying to a doctor to get more highly addictive medicine, how about talking to a doctor about pain management.

Or let Darwin take its course. I really don't care, just don't take away my medically necessary medicines because someone else abuses them.

Me thinks you don't quite understand addiction.

Spoiler alert, it's not always a character flaw.

DRM901 · 11-21-2019, 05:35 AM

As several have stated, this is an RV forum, so I think the key lesson learned is don't carry illegal stuff (drugs, guns, aliens - the ones from area 51) in your RV. What might be legal in one area might be illegal in another. And you don't want them seizing your $500k rig.

**Spdracr39** · 11-21-2019, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rk911

not worthy of a response.

Really because alcohol and prescription opioids destroy exponentially more families and lives than pot. This tunnel vision because it is labelled a "Drug" is the real problem. It's legal so it must be better vs it's illegal so everyone that touches it should die will not solve anything.

foundwaldo · 11-21-2019, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tcg

Does this include the pharmaceutical companies, their owners/CEOs, and the doctors that created the opioid crisis? Or bar owners, owners/CEOs of liquor distributors/manufacturers?

Would you say the same about gun manufacturers? Where do you stop?

TonyMac · 11-21-2019, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tcg

Me thinks you don't quite understand addiction.

Spoiler alert, it's not always a character flaw.

Then what explains why the vast majority of people who use a substance such as alcohol and opioids do not get addicted, while a few do? We are all subject to the same external stimulus, yet some become addicted and some do not. We all have flaws, I still have to think about right and left but have 3:00 and 9:00 down pat. That's messed up, but I own it and work at it. Smoking is an example in our view right now; many of us have been able to quit over the past several decades, but some seemingly cannot.

"Spoiler alert". Wow, how original. Was that necessary?

tcg · 11-21-2019, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyMac

Then what explains why the vast majority of people who use a substance such as alcohol and opioids do not get addicted, while a few do? We are all subject to the same external stimulus, yet some become addicted and some do not. We all have flaws, I still have to think about right and left but have 3:00 and 9:00 down pat. That's messed up, but I own it and work at it. Smoking is an example in our view right now; many of us have been able to quit over the past several decades, but some seemingly cannot.

"Spoiler alert". Wow, how original. Was that necessary?

Once again, it appears as you don't understand how addiction works.

Addiction is not always a choice especially when it starts with a doctor prescribing a pill.

Google is a good place to start.

Jetskier50 · 11-21-2019, 08:08 AM

Addiction is a disease, just as any other illness.

Why can some people smoke like a freight train and NOT get cancer.

Until one comes to terms that addiction is a disease they will not understand.

Yosemite77 · 11-21-2019, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LPBolens

I-80 in northern Illinois is notorious for stops of out-of-state larger vehicles, like motor homes and U-Haul type trucks. The police usually will make some often bogus claim for WHY they stopped that particular vehicle, and will then hold it there until they can get the drug dog to the site of the traffic stop. Local journalists have reported on this, and there have been court challenges, but as far as I know, nothing has changed. It is worse if you look like you might be a brown person. So, traveler, beware!

My 2 cents, with Chicago being a major hub for drug traffickers, I would hope the State Police are looking for suspicious vehicles/individuals in an area just SW of Chicago. I assume they were looking for anything that looked out of the norm. In this case the reason given was that the RV van’s headlights weren’t on, even though it was raining. Realistically this wasn’t the only thing that may have led to him being pulled over. It was just one of the reasons. That doesn’t make it bogus. Given the thousands of vehicles passing through that area on a daily basis, it’s impressive that they managed to spot this guy. Though racial profiling is obviously bad, that’s not true of all profiling.

ktn1966 · 11-21-2019, 11:15 AM

They knew. Something of this size was reported beforehand and the LEA decided to protect their confidential informant.

I worry about speed traps as I travel around, but a stopped vehicle for headlight infraction during time of questionable limited visibility leading to a 600K dollar confiscation is just to much of a stretch.

He should of not cheated on his girlfriend, lol. Tongue in cheek, since significant others are the number one informant for drug charges.

CJ7365 · 11-21-2019, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tcg

And yet you did.

It was a serious question. Why shouldn't the doctors and pharmaceutical companies who created the opioid crisis not be held as responsible as the people you want executed?

LOL

Solo_RV_Guy · 11-21-2019, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rk911

not worthy of a response.

Legal intoxicants kill a whole lot of people and ruin lives just as surely as illegal intoxicants. We reward most of the professionals who enable this. That this irony escape some of our iRV2 participants is not surprising.