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Old 11-16-2004, 03:53 PM   #1
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Have any of you seen or heard about the proposal by the nominee for the position of California DMV Director, Joan Borucki?

She wants to abolish the gas tax and place some sort of unspecified (probably GPS) tracking device so they can tax you not only on how far you drive but where you drive. Included in the proposal is the potential for additional fees for large trucks if they drive on residential streets. Will RV's be classified as large trucks? If it will bring them more of our money you can bet they will.

The other issue is one of privacy. Do we want the government to know where we are and where we are going? I don't.

Oregon and Washington are already testing this system. I don't know how it is being received up there but hopefully it's not working out.

After all the hoopla from these hypocrites in Sacramento and elsewhere about driving hybrid cars to cut down on fuel usage they are suddenly, or maybe not so suddenly, realizing that they are losing tax dollars on the hybrids. What a shock. Any kid with a basic understanding of math could have told them the same thing.

Hang on to your britches if this thing takes off.

What are your thoughts on this matter?
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:53 PM   #2
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Have any of you seen or heard about the proposal by the nominee for the position of California DMV Director, Joan Borucki?

She wants to abolish the gas tax and place some sort of unspecified (probably GPS) tracking device so they can tax you not only on how far you drive but where you drive. Included in the proposal is the potential for additional fees for large trucks if they drive on residential streets. Will RV's be classified as large trucks? If it will bring them more of our money you can bet they will.

The other issue is one of privacy. Do we want the government to know where we are and where we are going? I don't.

Oregon and Washington are already testing this system. I don't know how it is being received up there but hopefully it's not working out.

After all the hoopla from these hypocrites in Sacramento and elsewhere about driving hybrid cars to cut down on fuel usage they are suddenly, or maybe not so suddenly, realizing that they are losing tax dollars on the hybrids. What a shock. Any kid with a basic understanding of math could have told them the same thing.

Hang on to your britches if this thing takes off.

What are your thoughts on this matter?
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:21 PM   #3
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One good thing about a gps tracking device is that it can be turned off, or better yet taken off and left in one place while you travel around .
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Old 11-17-2004, 09:12 AM   #5
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If California does it, you can bet it will be hardwired into the vehicle. And will probably have a small backup battery to send an alarm if the main power is disconnected.
Black boxes in the vehicles. IT would be a break for retirees who don't commute or travel very far. But think what it would cost service vehicles!
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:28 AM   #6
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Big Brother can propose the idea of a mileage tax but I think most Californians will revolt when it comes to having tracking devices installed in their vehicles. I for one will not put up with this kind of intrusion into my privacy or freedom of travel. I can only imagine the lawsuit that would be filed. This is just one step away from making me wear a monitoring beacon. No thanks. I would gladly give up everything and leave the state, start over somewhere else.

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Old 11-17-2004, 12:17 PM   #7
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How about a link to see what this is about. I've heard nothing and if Washington and OR are already testing there should be some info out there to read??
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I heard about a similar proposal from the insurance companies where your insurance rate would float depending upon how much you drive. The hype, of course, is that you would save money if you don't drive a lot. Yeah Right!!
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They won't have to keep track where your at all the time the computer will do that and each time you buy fuel you will have to plug in to the system which will down load your records that are kept in the memory and the tax will be added to the price at the pump. It is like a lot of the trucks that are on the road have a system that records all of there activities and when they pull into the termial they just plug into the system and download the information and they can tell the driver how fast he was driving in which gear and where he was at when he was driving that speed. It is more of the you can run but you can't hide theory that is being applied more and more each day.
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Don't worry, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AS THE PUBLIC WOULD OVERRULE. Anyone can make a proposal but to make a proposal happen is another story. We have more things to worry about.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JimL:
I heard about a similar proposal from the insurance companies where your insurance rate would float depending upon how much you drive. The hype, of course, is that you would save money if you don't drive a lot. Yeah Right!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>In the Commonwealth of PA, we have annual auto inspections which makes a report of our odometer reading to a state data base. Insurance companies have been privy to this data base for decades already!

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How about every body stop worrying about this big brother crap. If somebody wants to see how much I drive and where I go, so what. Maybe if we watched more closely 9/11 wouldnt have happened. I don't break any laws , I pay my taxes, I support the economy in every way possible and I don't expect a free ride. I served my country for 32 years in the military and I held down a job that paid me a fair wage. If we all held to these values we would be a lot better off. The last election spoke of these Moral values and not a slick way of avoiding civil law and obedience.
Let's enjoy ourselves and pray for our youth who are defendinmg our way of life.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Captain Bud:
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Brought a tear to my eye I tell ya. <span class="ev_code_RED">Bravo Zulu</span> Cap!
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