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09-30-2012, 12:53 PM
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Automatic Transfer Switch Question
Automatic Transfer switch
Why not just put a female plug in place of the Automatic Transfer switch and plug into it when not hooked to shore power just wondering
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09-30-2012, 01:01 PM
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I could be mistaken, but I think that's how many older RVs operated. I think the "automatic" function added convenience but also complexity.
Rick
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09-30-2012, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodneykrantz
Automatic Transfer switch
Why not just put a female plug in place of the Automatic Transfer switch and plug into it when not hooked to shore power just wondering
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You can do just that. In fact like Rick said the manual way was the accepted way to get 'er done for years and still is on some RV's. The ATS has become more prevalent because we're getting lazier
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10-01-2012, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RickO
I could be mistaken, but I think that's how many older RVs operated. I think the "automatic" function added convenience but also complexity.
Rick
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You are not mistaken,, I call that a "Poor man's transfer switch" by the way
Actually it is a very good and workable alternative to the modern "Automatic" switch
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IF you go this route, and you also park your Generator equipped RV at your house, put in a good GENERATOR TRANSFER panel on the house, complete with inlet and make up a cord that adapts from the RV to the HOUSe and is long enough to make the trip (plus 5 feet for safety)
Switch: Expensive
Installation: likewise
Heavy duty flexable cord: Yet again
Warm happy wife: Priceless
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10-01-2012, 04:55 PM
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My Winnebago Aspect has the "poor man's transfer switch". I wouldn't have it any other way, one less thing to worry about.
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10-01-2012, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by baraff
My Winnebago Aspect has the "poor man's transfer switch". I wouldn't have it any other way, one less thing to worry about.
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No kidding. The "automatic" switch still requires that care be taken when changing power sources and I've often thought that a manual connection would be better when all things are considered.
rick
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10-01-2012, 05:02 PM
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Rodney,
My '92 and my '99 were exactly like that, as most older RVs. There's enough ATS failures on here that makes me glad I don't have one. I don't understand the convienience though. You have to go to the elec bay to plug into shore and to put the cord back anyway, so what's the big deal to plug it in.
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10-01-2012, 06:25 PM
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I was just wondering if there was a technical reason for it I was thinking about the previous post about using the generator for the house if I lose power it would be easy if it was a plug
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10-02-2012, 05:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodneykrantz
I was just wondering if there was a technical reason for it I was thinking about the previous post about using the generator for the house if I lose power it would be easy if it was a plug
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Rodney, we did exactly that last summer when we had no power for 40+ hours. Brought the MH home and ran a heavy duty extension cord through a window in the house to power the fridge and the fish tanks. On the MH I plugged the extension cord in to the outlet by the outside stereo. It ran non-stop for 30+ hours and saved the day. It would not have made any difference if it were a transfer switch or RV plug, I was not "backfeeding" the house circuit, just running extension cords. All we wanted to do was save our fishies and the food in the fridge and have some light.
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10-02-2012, 09:28 PM
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I put an automatic transfer switch in my 5er so I wouldn't have to go out in the rain and switch the plug if I wanted to run my Honda 2000 generator instead of my onboard propane eating Generac.
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10-03-2012, 06:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunner
I put an automatic transfer switch in my 5er so I wouldn't have to go out in the rain and switch the plug if I wanted to run my Honda 2000 generator instead of my onboard propane eating Generac.
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Can you start the Honda from inside too??
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10-03-2012, 06:39 PM
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If it's raining, the Honda is in my 20' enclosed and if I ran it, it would be with the doors open and an exhaust fan running.
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10-09-2012, 06:54 PM
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Not really sure BUT I think an ATS failure did $2500 dollars worth of damage to my generator. I got rid of the $50 ATS and wired the generator to a reqeptacle in the electrical bay, at a campground, unplug from the generator and plug into the camprground service. Headed back on the road, unpug the shore line and as I store it in the MH electric bay I plug it into the generator. FOOLPROOF.
Sold that old 93 and just picked up a 2008 with only 9000 miles on it.
Came on here and googled ATS swithes, wow, I thought I was the only one to have experienced a problem like that.
Next order of business is to remove the ATS and wire the new modern MH as per the old fashioned ones, and sleep well at night
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10-10-2012, 06:33 PM
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"Illinois! - Where the politicians make the license plates......"
YEE HA! I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS!
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