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tcg · 02-28-2019, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 1bigmess

If you want to drive a special car to get through traffic faster, there are places to apply for the privilege:

https://www.indeed.com/q-Police-Officer-jobs.html
https://www.indeed.com/q-Entry-Level...hter-jobs.html

Your attempt to equivocate small cars and motorcycles on this issue is kinda ridiculous. Make a car narrow enough to match a motorcycle, and then you've got a shot at this, but right now you just don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
^^^ There's your answer. Not the one you might want, but it's the correct answer to your question. ^^^

Did you just say if a vehicle wants to get through traffic faster they should get a job as a police officer or firefighter?

So motorcycles are just like police and fire vehicles?

ScoobyDoo · 02-28-2019, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by V3600

Oh wow, this topic gets plenty (too much) of play on the motorcycle forums and now it's here on an RV forum? Is the world coming to an end? lol

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Originally Posted by 2Yung2 Quit

I agree. The topic is beat to death on the MC forums. Why bring it here? There are two camps on this, and you'll never convince anyone to switch.

Might be a good idea to discuss a little where non-riders might see. Most anything to increase awareness might be worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by tcg

Would the law allow me to split the lane if I were in my car and there was a slow moving motorcycle?

Or what about two small cars and I have a smaller car that can fit between them?

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Originally Posted by 1bigmess

False equivalences.

How so? The last license plate I bought cost about a 3rd of what the plate for a car. Why should the law favor the MC?

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Originally Posted by poppyof5

For those of us that spend the money for our bikes yes they are "more special" then your cage with A/C and water cooled. Since we can't maintain our air cooled system. So keep your small car maintained and it shouldn't overheat so you should not have to split in your smart car

Should we follow this logic for a ways? Driving a Chevy, should I have to yield to a Lexus? A old Ford get out of the way of a new one? Ok, fine. But this Pete needs to get the load thru, he's splitting the lane with you on your cheap MC!
I quit riding many years ago. For years MC was my only transportation, and I did not live in a mild climate. If just commuting, need to park where I could not watch, take the UJM. Streets slick snow/ice? The little Enduro, just as safe if a cage hits me, and less likely to need repairs if dropped. Pleasure riding? Roll out the Panhead

(I stopped ridding because I could not stop drinking and still hang with the guys I rode with)
As to little cars splitting the lanes; Truth is 3 full size pickups, with all drivers on the ball, could stay in the average 2 lanes of interstate. The problem is most drivers get in their car head first. By that I mean put head in seat, sit down with it wedged between the cheeks before hitting the starter.

1bigmess · 02-28-2019, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tcg

Did you just say if a vehicle wants to get through traffic faster they should get a job as a police officer or firefighter?

So motorcycles are just like police and fire vehicles?

I don't think you're not getting the point, I just think you want to argue. I'm not falling for it at this point.

tcg · 02-28-2019, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 1bigmess

I don't think you're not getting the point, I just think you want to argue. I'm not falling for it at this point.

I'm trying to figure out why motorcycles should be the only vehicles allowed to drive between other vehicles.

I was told small cars don't count unless they are police cars.

If a Smart Car (very tiny car) can fit between other vehicles why should they not be allowed to split the lane.

If a Malibu can fit between a Fiat and a some other tiny car why should they not be allowed to split the lane.

I get that you don't have an answer but at least be honest about it.

1bigmess · 02-28-2019, 07:01 AM

I'm honestly avoiding getting sucked into a ridiculous argument about the obvious physical differences and how these things can be reasonably used in real life situations instead of the ridiculous scenarios that could be pulled out of thin air for days but rarely happen, and you know it.

Bye [emoji112]

tcg · 02-28-2019, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 1bigmess

I'm honestly avoiding getting sucked into a ridiculous argument about the obvious physical differences and how these things can be reasonably used in real life situations instead of the ridiculous scenarios that could be pulled out of thin air for days but rarely happen, and you know it.

Bye [emoji112]

Rarely happen? I come up on motorcycles all the time in my car and I could easily fit between them.

What's the difference if a car splits the lane between motorcycles?

Hint: there is none.

As I said there is no real explanation as to why motorcycles get to split lanes and not cars so bye to you as well.

TonyMac · 02-28-2019, 07:09 AM

lane splitters is WHY cyclists get killed. Here a News Flash: It ain't your road! The road belongs to cars. There are more of them and, given a collision, you lose. I have over 100,000 miles in the saddle and I learned a few things. Be predictable, nothing predictable about lane splitting. The other guy will kill you, avoid him. Hard to do when you are closing at 40mph.

TonyMac · 02-28-2019, 07:11 AM

That said, if you wanna lane split, go ahead. No skin of my butt. But when you lose skin off yours, well, pardon me as I laugh. I feel sorry for the guy you hit.

530ktm · 02-28-2019, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tcg

Rarely happen? I come up on motorcycles all the time in my car and I could easily fit between them.

What's the difference if a car splits the lane between motorcycles?

Hint: there is none.

As I said there is no real explanation as to why motorcycles get to split lanes and not cars so bye to you as well.

Are you simply trolling for arguments? Your thoughts about cars splitting lanes between bikes is ridiculous. You have been given several reasons why it might be necessary at times other than not wanting to sit in stop and go traffic on a scorching hot day. There are a lot of dumb laws that we have to deal with and if you don't like this one then just accept it and stop with all the bantering about your iddy biddy car scenarios, etc. Some riders are comfortable with splitting and some aren't, I know where you fall.

2Yung2 Quit · 02-28-2019, 07:43 AM

And this is what happens when you "discuss" lane sharing with non-riders. You just get a lot of uninformed ignorant responses. A little education for you. An actual study. https://www.cycleworld.com/2015/06/0...s-rider-saftey

tcg · 02-28-2019, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 530ktm

Are you simply trolling for arguments? Your thoughts about cars splitting lanes between bikes is ridiculous. You have been given several reasons why it might be necessary at times other than not wanting to sit in stop and go traffic. There are a lot of dumb laws that we have to deal with and if you don't like this one then just accept it and stop with all the bantering about your iddy biddy car scenarios, etc. Some riders are comfortable with splitting and some aren't, I know where you fall.

My full size Malibu can easily fit between two motorcycles on the highway.

Would a motorcycle rider be ok with me sharing their lane?

tcg · 02-28-2019, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Yung2 Quit

And this is what happens when you "discuss" lane sharing with non-riders. You just get a lot of uninformed ignorant responses. A little education for you. An actual study. https://www.cycleworld.com/2015/06/0...s-rider-saftey

I have been riding for 38 years.

530ktm · 02-28-2019, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tcg

My full size Malibu can easily fit between two motorcycles on the highway.

Would a motorcycle rider be ok with me sharing their lane?

I know for a fact that if you did this to me and many other riding friends on the road you would regret doing so. As I said, you are on here to simply annoy other members with your stupid scenarios and contribute nothing intelligent and I too am done with this lame thread. Now go out and split some lanes with your automobile.

tcg · 02-28-2019, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 530ktm

I know for a fact that if you did this to me and many other riding friends on the road you would regret doing so. As I said, you are on here to simply annoy other members with your stupid scenarios and contribute nothing intelligent and I too am done with this lame thread. Now go out and split some lanes with your automobile.

It's stupid to come up on a couple motorcycles in traffic and then want to go between them just like a motorcyclist wants to?

You're right it is lame.

It's lame how motorcyclists don't like autos getting near them but auto drivers are supposed to understand why motorcycles need special privileges and be allowed to crowd them.

I'll be done now.