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Old 01-10-2012, 05:24 PM   #365
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Before any progress is made in this country concerning energy development we must abolish the DOE (Department of Energy)!
Back in the 70s when the old AEC (Atomic Energy Commission) was changed to a full Department status (DOE) one of the items that they were charged with was to REDUCE our dependence of foreign oil. Obviously they have FAILED miserably, they only thing that they have accomplished is to write more rules and regulations that ties the hands of our industry!
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Embrace it as the tides of change will wash over us leaving a bunch of "grumpy old men"!
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"The fires, which happened one to three weeks after the crash tests, were sparked after the cars had been slowly rotated as part of a post-test procedure causing the coolant to come into contact with circuit boards. The batteries were still charged at the time".

Apparently they car was slowly rotated weeks after the crash, for testing purposes
Yea, there is no real danger here!
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I really love the lines. Generally more attractive than the other EVs out there. Well, except for the Tesla, I suppose.
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It's like anything else, the manufacturing (remember that?) gets better and better, and cheaper and cheaper, also inovation (remember that?) comes into play, and product gets smaller, more efficient, and inexpensive. My first cell phone weighed 5 pounds and came in a sachel with a cord, battery went dead after 2 phone calls, not to mention terrible reception! Now look at them, You can Google them on your wireless laptop that's working on battery power, or your smartphone or your (insert other foreign made device here)
as far as the Govs part well no politics remember! Or we can sit on our hands and watch every other country in the world go solar, wind, and battery, and they are and they will. We need to make energy sources more diversified, so the deisel we put in our MHs gets cheaper. Less demand more supply price goes down.
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There are no alternative energies systems that can even begin to compete with fossil fuels. They exist only because of taxpayer subsidies. The money needs to be spend on research, not on building of plants that will never begin to compete.
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Volt production line shut down for five or more weeks. Now what??

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I guess they will do the same thing that toyota did with the tundra. Wait untill demand picks up. Then start building them again.
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I guess they will do the same thing that toyota did with the tundra. Wait untill demand picks up. Then start building them again.
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Based on a recent article in Wall Street Journal, @ $4.00 gal and 15,000 miles per year it would take 20 years to breakeven on the price differential!! No wonder why the car is selling so poorly, (moderator edit)
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Based on a recent article in Wall Street Journal, @ $4.00 gal and 15,000 miles per year it would take 20 years to breakeven on the price differential!! No wonder why the car is selling so poorly, (moderator edit)
I don't know if any of the above is true or not. But, any tax credit would apply to any electric vehicle, not just a GM Volt.

Any big technology change has huge up front development costs. I saw Bob Lutz on some program recently (I forget which one) and he stated that there are batteries in development now that should give 400 miles or more to a single charge. The Lithium-air battery was one that was mentioned. These should be in the cars within 10 years. When that happens, the internal combustion engine will begin to be phased out. Result; much less demand on gas/diesel and the end of imported oil.

Apparently, the naysayers either enjoy paying ever higher fuel costs or they expect the companies developing these new technologies to absorb the huge costs for many years until they become cheaper than gas engines.
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I don't know if any of the above is true or not. But, any tax credit would apply to any electric vehicle, not just a GM Volt.

Any big technology change has huge up front development costs. I saw Bob Lutz on some program recently (I forget which one) and he stated that there are batteries in development now that should give 400 miles or more to a single charge. The Lithium-air battery was one that was mentioned. These should be in the cars within 10 years. When that happens, the internal combustion engine will begin to be phased out. Result; much less demand on gas/diesel and the end of imported oil.

Apparently, the naysayers either enjoy paying ever higher fuel costs or they expect the companies developing these new technologies to absorb the huge costs for many years until they become cheaper than gas engines.
In ten years we will have a battery to increase range from 36 miles (the Volt) to 400 miles? that will be something. that would work.

Actually by then, the development of the 500 mile
Flux Capacitor will be complete. and it will replace the 400 mile battery.
only problem is, you have to go 86MPH.
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Actually the money should be spent on scientific development instead of $3,500,000 Super Bowl ads touting a car people obviously don't want. The same with solar. We have 3 giant billion dollar plants going in in Florida that are using current technology that are destined to be a burden on taxpayers and ratepayers their entire life. We need to spending the money on basic research rather than having politicians buddies build worthless projects. My city put in two free charging stations at $7,000 each and they have never been used.
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