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Old 11-03-2012, 02:47 PM   #15
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Why Arizona does not have DST
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:02 PM   #16
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Ben Franklin first suggested it while in Paris. His shutters were not closed properly the night before and he awoke to sunlight pouring in. He 'calculated' a huge savings in candle wax if they just adjusted the clocks in summer to match human habits to artificial clock time. If was first used by Germany in WWI and other countries copied. Real advantages include: reduced energy usage, fewer traffic accidents and crime, increased recreation after work with more sports equipment sold. Entertainment businesses benefit from more sales and tourism, people are healthier due to exercise in the evenings.

One of the more comical reasons I've read to halt DST is that cows and chickens are disrupted by the time change. I believe it is the farmers that change the interaction times with the animals, not that the animals actually read clocks.

Time zones and DST always gets folks upset, especially those traveling or living near boundaries. They should go back before 1884 when each town set their clocks by sun time. Time varied every few miles. (East - West) Railroads were the first to organize time zones to reduce confusion on trains traveling between towns.

The penalty Arizona pays for not changing to DST is people have to live there - a place that shares weather with Hell.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:38 PM   #17
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a place that shares weather with Hell.
Here in my little slice of Arizona, the avg. outdoor temp last month was 67. Hell? What the Hell do you consider Heaven?
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My clocks only have:
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thur Fri
on the face. If I could squeeze 12 months on it I would.

Actually the young children going to school has the biggest benefit. They get to walk to and board their buses during daylight hours. Less accidents.
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Yuck. I HATE the time changes. Does anyone actually benefit from it? I wish they would just leave it alone.
Really getting to hate DST. 16zillion clocks to change and can't remember how to change some of them.
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Really getting to hate DST. 16zillion clocks to change and can't remember how to change some of them.
Make a list. i have a few clocks that were programmed with the old dates of DST and so I get to change them 4 times a year!

I find a file on my computer with "how to" on some of the more cryptic clock markings helps.

By the way, back in the late teens - '20s THOUSANDS of old wind up clocks that could only be advanced, not turned back were broken when the 'Fall back' part of DST rolled around. Great for clock makers, sucked for everyone else!

I know I'm a geek, but this is a fascinating book on the subject.
Seize the Daylight: The Curious and Contentious Story of Daylight Saving Time: David Prerau: Amazon.com: Books
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Make a list. i have a few clocks that were programmed with the old dates of DST and so I get to change them 4 times a year!

I find a file on my computer with "how to" on some of the more cryptic clock markings helps.

By the way, back in the late teens - '20s THOUSANDS of old wind up clocks that could only be advanced, not turned back were broken when the 'Fall back' part of DST rolled around. Great for clock makers, sucked for everyone else!

I know I'm a geek, but this is a fascinating book on the subject.
Seize the Daylight: The Curious and Contentious Story of Daylight Saving Time: David Prerau: Amazon.com: Books
That's being too organized. . I'd rather "hunt and peck" around my wristwatch buttons until I discover which ones do what. Besides, being an old fart, I can claim "I forgot." Well, my stomach is claiming it's an hour past lunch while the clock says lunch time is almost here.
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I used to work for a Principal that acted like a real know-it-all -- until time change every Spring and Fall. Then he'd ask me to 'stop in' his office and change his watch for him, after being sworn not to tell anyone he didn't know how. By 'honoring' his secret, I found I could get other little favors done that made life better for me, my students, and fellow staff.
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It really messed me up this morning. I was ready to get up for bacon and eggs and the morning news at 8:30, aw rats, here I am wide awake at 7:30. I will likely be asleep in front of the tv at 8 tonight.
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Yes, the transportation industry is responsible for designating the time zones in North America. Each state can choose between observing DST, or staying on one time the entire year. Also, each state bordering a time zone delineation line change, can choose which zone they desire.
Example; some counties in Indiana observe CST to mesh with Louisville and Chicago, while most counties observe DST. Makes it a challenge to visit Gary, IN then Indianapolis during summer. We had a special referendum 8 years ago which resulted in a checkerboard of counties observing DST, and others stayed on EST year-round.
It affects me by causing me to spend 15 minutes 2X a year adjusting timekeeping devices. Not bad considering my cousin just returned from China. His flight arrived 6 hours sooner than he left China on the same day.
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Every time I make the DST post an AZ resident comments.
So don't make DST posts.
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What's hilarious about that is the main part of AZ that does observe DST in the Navajo Indian Reservation.
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I lived in Elkhart, IN when South Bend, just 20 miles away was in Central TZ. To take a date to a movie in SB, you'd leave Elkhart at the start time of the movie in SB and still have 30 min. to wait. Problem was getting her back in time for her curfew! All the TV stations were in SB too, so we always had to convert times on TV to Eastern TZ.
I've made a number of trips to Australia. Coming home a couple of times I've seen 2 sunrises and two sunsets on the same date. Talk about time zones, damn International Date line. I used to think it was a 1-800 number for overseas hook-ups!
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