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Old 05-06-2012, 12:10 PM   #29
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I really appreciate your post on email scams. Maybe we can make it more inclusive of the different types of scams and even list the top 5 or 10 common variants.

I'm sorry if I upset you with replying about calendars. I am fully aware that T-Bird does not come with a calendar and it is an add-on. I was just trying to be helpful. So sorry.

As for email scams. A study was done many years ago regarding email scams and links inside of the email. I don't remember the percentage, but it was very very high that people who receive the email will click on the link. This was even tested when the email stated "this is a linked virus." They still clicked on it and many, when asked why, would reply, "I just wanted to see what it would do." Pure stupidity

There are certain steps that users can take to minimize the risk of viruses. The best approach is a good virus protection program. Users can search on the words, "good virus protection program," and come up with their own findings. Some are better than others, some are equal, and some are just not worth the "free" payment.

Many times there are procedures in email clients for setting to restricted areas. One that comes to mind is MS Outlook. Anyone using that program can set there "zone" to the "Restricted Zone" and be much safer than the normal configuration, but also have good virus protection, and while at it look into a good "Firewall."

No operating system is protected just by the operating system for viruses or attacks. There have been viruses for the MAC since the inception of the MAC, although the viruses have not been as prolific as those for the PC, they still have had some. As stated, with the popularity of the MAC the viruses are increasing. Again, a good Firewall/Anti-Virus program is essential to peace of mind. I run a good Firewall/Anti-Virus program on both my laptop PC and my two MAC's. On both systems I will see pop-ups of attacks or viruses that I have been protected against. The newer virus protection schemes will protect against email phishing, malware, and other forms of email attacks, so check to see what your anti-virus does. There are programs for ad-ware also.

There are NO firewall or anti-virus programs on the market that can protect a computer from every aspect of attack. If anyone were to create a virus today and implement it, it would only be a matter of minutes before infection would start to spread. In many programs Heuristic protection would take over, but once a system is infected it will spread to other systems not protected. The Anti-virus software providers would be hours away from a "fix," and then it would depend entirely on the update schedule of an individual persons computer.

This is a subject that can go on, and on, and on, and for many it may be boring, but I hope for the uninformed it can lead to a better understanding and asking of questions, or research.

Check your log files on a periodic basis to see who or what is trying to access your system.

My backround. Retired from NASA, as an Information Technology Security Specialist.

Happy trails.

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Old 05-06-2012, 08:03 PM   #31
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Another suggestion is to be sure to keep your device's Operating System updated, be it PC, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS or whatever. It always amazes me that people are still running computers that haven't been updated for months.
This includes software and browsers as well. Some of this choice will be taken out of folks' hands with the upcoming releases of Firefox 13 and up, as updates will be delivered silently, automatically and without user interaction. Chrome has been doing this for a while.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:55 AM   #32
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Another suggestion is, use a limited account instead of an administrator account for your day to day computing tasks. This will prevent many malware bugs from embedding themselves deeply in your operating system. You rarely need administrator level permissions to use your computer for day to day tasks, only when you are installing updates or software, or making changes to the system do you need administrator level perms. On those occaisions, you log into your admin account to make them, then log out. In the case of Windows 7, it will just ask you for your admin password when a program needs more perms than your current account has.

Once a malware program has been executed, it runs with YOUR permissions. If you limit your own permissions, you also limit the malware's permissions. If your account gets infected, recovery is often just a matter of setting up a new user level account and copying your documents across, then deleting the infected account, and its files.

As an off-topic side note: The whole malware problem could be addressed by the OS vendor by changing the way they handle running processes. Currently, to handle malware, we maintain an ever growing list of bad programs in our virus protection suites. We get periodic updates to that list. Problem is, when a new virus is released, we can become infected before our antivirus program gets an update to be able to detect it.

A better way would be for the OS to maintain an internal list of 'approved' processes, and disallow anything else from running. Any process that wants to run has to get the operating system's (and ultimately, the end user's) permission to do so. The operating system zealously protects its own processes from being replaced or overwritten.

There, malware problem solved. Here's a freebie, Microsoft, run with it.
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I too received the Amazon email and had actually just placed an order with them, I clicked on this one and it took me to a Canadian pharmacy, I looked at it again and it was dated for the next day.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:16 PM   #34
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I just got hacked and my email account filled up faster than I could delete the messages saying that my emails were undeliverable and then I got locked out of my hotmail account and that was a really perplexing job getting back into it.. Lot's of use of several cuss words.I think mine came from a work online email and I never open any of them as well as the you're locked out one.The DW just got one from Discover about a fraud usage warning which I didn't link and when I called Discover, they were VERY happy to here about that.
On the other ones, when I got my email hacked,I deleted a number of un-opened ones and that's when the thing went crazy. Yes,I do have AVG and Microsoft security online.
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:32 AM   #35
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I know not everyone will like Firefox; but it is more secure, and faster, and has more DNS securities built in than IE9 and Google Chrome combined. It also utilizes Thunderbird Email Client, which completely outclasses Outlook, Hotmail, Gmail and all the rest of them in security tools. Just for the record, Gmail comes closer with security tools for the consumer than the rest.

The only downside to T-bird is no built in calendar

Bing is probably an 8 on a 10 scale; the biggest thing it has going for it is the "warm and fuzzy" feel and look.
There is an "add-on" for a calendar for Thunderbird (v12.0.1). I think it is called "Lightning", but I'm not sure.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:08 AM   #36
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i take all of the security measures mentioned in this thread. in addition, i use 3 e-mails addresses. one is for online billing only; where to send the statement notifications. the second is one that we use for family and friends. the third is used for any and all online usage such as forum registrations, online ordering (including pay-pal, e*bay), etc.

only my 2nd [personal] address gets downloaded to my PC email program. even using scanning programs on those e-mails i still use common sense when opening mails or clicking links.

thanks for the heads up on the pay-pal and amazon scams. i'll keep an eye out for those.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:41 AM   #37
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Ha ha! Three emails made me chuckle. I'm really, really paranoid I guess.

I have 14 email accounts. Oh my! Oh my! I need to get a life.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:19 PM   #38
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Ha ha! Three emails made me chuckle. I'm really, really paranoid I guess. I have 14 email accounts. Oh my! Oh my! I need to get a life.
What's funnier is.....I have more than that myself...but in honesty, I use each one for various marketing/business related purposes!

As for the original reason for this whole thread in the first place...

The reason why these email-scams are still rampant is because people are gullible and choose to NOT do their 'homework' before going all 'click-happy' and start clicking on links...or worse, choosing to NOT USE common sense when receiving these types of emails!

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For my email security I look at my emails on my IP server before I down load any. If the email is from a bank/institution that I do not have business with I delete. If bad english/spelling I delete. If you must respond now or your account will be frozen I delete. If its from the FBI CIA or some cancer non survivor widow with lots of money to give away I delete. If I have any doubts I will open it up on the IP server to check it out. And never click on the "please remove me from your list" link as that will tell them that they have a good live email address to sell to others.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:59 AM   #40
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All the information here is great and very helpful. Several months ago I received a notice on e-mail from "UPS" that my "package" could not be sent to me without further information. Since i never ordered any ups package i deleted this. One other thing i usually don't open is chain letters, meaning stuff sent to me with 20 or thirty names on it. I get a lot of this from my sister, but will delete it. I call her on a regular basis to get the "news". Anyone ever get the "won a big prize" one from Nigeria. Just send 500.00 $ to cover admin. costs? Yeah...checks in the mail!
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I got one today that said I'd won 1,000,000 in the PCH sweepstakes.. now I do admit that I visit PCH.com often but that's not where it came from and they ask for contact info.

I did "Reply" sort of... I contacted PCH customer service and sent them the entire E-Mail as part of the message, HEADERS and all.

A quick check of the web (Using the originating address in the header) on PCH-Search.com found a site that suggests strongly it was a scam.

NOTE: the trigure for my BS filter was the non-pch.com address.
The other trigure is PCH.COm (The real PCH) has my contact information already, including the phone number, all 10 digits.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:23 AM   #42
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I know somebody already probably stated this, but when it comes to email account hacking, I've found it best to keep different passwords for email accounts....

Several friends/relatives had email accounts hacked that were on Facebook using the same password.....could be just a coincidence, but I doubt it.....

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